Those who dare enter Lorien - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Legate of Amon Lanc · 07-21-2008, 08:06 AM

I would think that the story of "disappearing people" is more like a spooky story unfolded by superstitious Eorlings and Gondorians and such. But, still I think it may be that this thing really happened to a few people (the legends are likely to have at least some real basis, right), and in that case I would say: if they came with evil intent (like raiders or something), I would expect their fate to be that of the Orcs. But in other cases, I would go for the last reason you state - that they remained of their free (?) will - I am placing here the question mark, because I could see them falling under some sort of enchantment in Lórien, and either wandering the borders without knowing where they are and where to go, until they die from starvation, or for example sitting in the middle of a glade and turning to stone or falling into a state similar to it, you know... Let's not forget that it's improbable, if not impossible, that a Man would actually live in Lórien among the Elves. That is close to unimaginable.

MatthewM · 07-21-2008, 08:48 AM

Well look what happened to Boromir...he entered...and came out changed. Thus, leading to his death.

I think the whole passage through Lorien is a test of will and spirit - if you fail, you might do something you regret, or even die. Yet if you pass, you go on to bigger things and you achieve greatness within yourself and in deeds. For that is what happened to the rest of the Fellowship. Although you could say that Boromir achieved a greater good...which I think he did, in the end. Totally.

wispeight · 08-25-2008, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MatthewM

Well look what happened to Boromir...he entered...and came out changed. Thus, leading to his death.

I think the whole passage through Lorien is a test of will and spirit - if you fail, you might do something you regret, or even die. Yet if you pass, you go on to bigger things and you achieve greatness within yourself and in deeds. For that is what happened to the rest of the Fellowship. Although you could say that Boromir achieved a greater good...which I think he did, in the end. Totally.

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I like how you state it. Boromir did not fail himself or the Fellow-ship. As to Lorien, is this the Woodland Realm, where Geladria reigns?

She was responsible for each one seeing what is in their heart. In Frodo's case, the probable future was revealed. The 'seldom return' comment is in relation to the difficulty of reaching this place, Lorien. It makes me wonder.

07-21-2008, 08:06 AM	#1
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	I would think that the story of "disappearing people" is more like a spooky story unfolded by superstitious Eorlings and Gondorians and such. But, still I think it may be that this thing really happened to a few people (the legends are likely to have at least some real basis, right), and in that case I would say: if they came with evil intent (like raiders or something), I would expect their fate to be that of the Orcs. But in other cases, I would go for the last reason you state - that they remained of their free (?) will - I am placing here the question mark, because I could see them falling under some sort of enchantment in Lórien, and either wandering the borders without knowing where they are and where to go, until they die from starvation, or for example sitting in the middle of a glade and turning to stone or falling into a state similar to it, you know... Let's not forget that it's improbable, if not impossible, that a Man would actually live in Lórien among the Elves. That is close to unimaginable. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

07-21-2008, 08:48 AM	#2
MatthewM Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New York Posts: 628	Well look what happened to Boromir...he entered...and came out changed. Thus, leading to his death. I think the whole passage through Lorien is a test of will and spirit - if you fail, you might do something you regret, or even die. Yet if you pass, you go on to bigger things and you achieve greatness within yourself and in deeds. For that is what happened to the rest of the Fellowship. Although you could say that Boromir achieved a greater good...which I think he did, in the end. Totally. __________________ "Loud and clear it sounds in the valleys of the hills...and then let all the foes of Gondor flee!" -Boromir, The Fellowship of the Ring