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Old 07-09-2008, 04:29 PM   #1
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Well, catching up on this thread took all of twenty-odd minutes--much longer than I expected on the basis of posting from the start of the Day. Good to see though.

To Boromir's highly relevant remark that people aren't paying enough attention to Nerwen and her relationships, pre-death, I must admit this is a very valid criticism, but in my own defence I was quite tired and more than a little forgetful last night, by the time I got back online after my power failures. That being said, I've still got no thoughts on who Nerwen might have been wolfing with, in the basis of the Nerwen posts. It is my general assumption that most players of this game (most, not all) are adept enough to play somewhere in that vague zone between mentioning a fellow wolf and drawing attention to a fellow wolf, and Nerwen certainly struck me as one of the line-walking capable.

Not that there's nothing out there to indicate her comrades, just that I'm not confident enough in my ability to spot it bother digging with a single half-hour left in the Day, and nothing leaping out at me.

What is leaping out at me is the randomness of Rikae's vote for me--natural, given that it's got my name in bold letters and there's a certain rush that comes from being voted for, but I really must say that her complete lack of reasoning, even if grounded in real life reasons, is almost insulting. I'd like to hear what reasons people have for killing me, even if they are ludicrous.

Much like Eomer, I'm finding myself vastly more confident today about Mith's innocence, though for different reasons. As for Eomer himself, however, I'm in a quandary of doubt based on this quote:

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I'm not constructing a logical argument to demonstrate my innocence. All I'm saying is that if I was a wolf, I'd be gentler in my public dealings. I am not trying to convince you -- that would be futile -- but perhaps some other folk in the village remember me as a colder, more dismissive wolf, rather than the loud, fight-seeking chap I'm showing myself to be here today. It's not general; it's particular to me. Frankly, I don't care if anyone buys it; I'm not hiding my thoughts, and it's way less pressure to play as an innocent.
Now, unlike Nilp, I'm inclined to agree with this statement of Eomer's inclinations, but like Nilp, it gives me great cause for concern. While I'm willing to concede that Eomer has become a vastly more stable wolf than he originally was, I'm also entirely willing to credit him with presence of mind and strength of character to play the part of the bouncy, random ordo when he's actually the wolf. If he has indeed become a more cool, dismissive wolf, then this would bespeak a cunning and ability to plan that could easily translate into an act--as the loud, fight-seeker.

That being said, however, until he posted the above, I was feeling more sure about Eomer's innocence than I have all game. Clearly, other people are getting suspicious today, based on the votes, and I'm inclined to wonder if maybe Eomer is our freshly-bitten wolf.

More to come... must refresh, as there are sure to be more posts by now, and to recollect my thoughts.
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Old 07-09-2008, 04:37 PM   #2
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Okay, thoughts on the votes thus far...

Mith's vote for Nogrod strikes a chord with me, if only because her reasoning articulates so well my thoughts about him. Namely, "I seldom regret voting for him and often regret not following through when I do suspect him." Nogrod is a player much like SPM was of old, and Boro is today: so formidable a player (or just a character... SPM had horrid luck, quite often) that one is pre-suspicious of him just on that basis. Nonetheless, I've been moderately suspicious of Nogrod since my castaway vote on Day 1, and I'm tempted to join Mith in this gesture.



On another topic, the anti-Nilp bids force me to reexamine Master Felagund. I think that the two of us had such a like attitude on Day 1 that I've ignored him since, seeing nought suspicious, but this is not a good idea, to just ignore someone. Nilp has been off of both the successful bandwaggons the past two Days, and has been noisy without making too much trouble.

The question, though, is whether is because he's clueless and affable or because he's clever and distracting. All my instincts lean toward the former, but recalling that I am over-inclined to agree with Nilp's mentality, I cannot but wonder if I might be more susceptible than most to his deceptions.


Definitely thinking of voting Nogrod... but am racked with scruples.
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Old 07-09-2008, 04:42 PM   #3
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Boromir's defence of Nogrod against Mith's vote causes me to question myself, and it brings back to mind good reason to think Nogrod innocent--his quietness. Recollecting that this is (I take it on faith) the result of having his father present, it is not necessarily lynch-worthy.

On the other hand... Boromir's feeling of Eomer's guilt makes me doubt my own affirmation of Eomer's guilty-feeling quality, simply because I consider Boro fully capable of swaying us into the death of an ordo--or a gifted.

In this dazed state, I'm about ready to vote Boromir, but I'm not sure there's any good reason or point to doing that.

If nought else, I agree with Boromir that "everyone is dazed and confused." I certainly am... and becoming more the more I read.
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Old 07-09-2008, 04:48 PM   #4
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18 minutes left of forum time as I start this post, nine left on my watch, and the vote count stands as follows:

Aganzir -> Nilp (following a long hunt...)
Mith -> Nogrod ("I seldom regret voting for him and often regret not following through when I do suspect him")
Rikae -> Formendacil (on a hunch)
Nilp -> null vote
Kitanna -> Eönwë (he stands out the most)
Eomer -> Nilp 2 ("Oh come on, Nilp. At least vote for yourself." But there were rows already before that)
Shasta -> Eomer
Eönwë -> Nilp

3 for Nilp, 1 each for Nogrod, Formendacil, Eönwë, and Eomer.

I waver between Eomer and Nogrod. There's case enough against Nilp, but I cannot say I am convinced enough by it to join a front-running bandwaggon.

I would rather vote Nogrod than Eomer, but the Nogrod case just isn't grounded in a decent reasoning, but simply gut feeling. At least with Eomer, the gut feeling is willing to go either way, but I feel I have a real argument for voting.

Enough indecision.

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I didn't buy her Day 1 vote for Sally and I'm not buying her vote for Nogrod.
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Old 07-09-2008, 04:55 PM   #6
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I'll say you follow the example of Boro if you don't trust me.

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PS. Although I'm not entirely happy how Dury seems to echo my suspicions (she voted for Kitanna on Day1 as I had suspected her heavily... but yes, maybe we just reached the same conclusions?)
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I'll say you follow the example of Boro if you don't trust me.
Bit late for me to do that toDay, given that I'm already the aforementioned second vote for Eomer.

And there's always the consideration that even if Eomer's innocent, there's no need for Boromir to be also... though he does shine well in the currently light and my suspicions have descended merely to the "well, there's a logical possibility that" stage, at least for another Night.
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Old 07-09-2008, 04:43 PM   #8
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Even if I disagree with Form's deductions on me (naturally) I think he's an ordo.

Eomer looks like a good candidate for being the new wolf (as someone said already). His vote toDay is quite a scary one. Another suspect for being turned a wolf toDay is Shasta (his sudden burst of activity).

But those things will be for those to consider who live on to Day 5 or 6 or something. Now we still have two original wolves around and need to get them first.

My top suspects would be then:
Mith
Kitanna
Nilp
Eönwë
Rikae


About in that order.
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Eomer looks like a good candidate for being the new wolf (as someone said already). His vote toDay is quite a scary one. Another suspect for being turned a wolf toDay is Shasta (his sudden burst of activity).
Scary?

And I don't see this about me or Shasta being turned because we finally got into a good argument. Surely the turned wolf would be very careful to stay as he/she was before?
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Ach, no.

2 votes.

Well...

I'm the Hunter.
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Old 07-09-2008, 04:51 PM   #13
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Ach, no.

2 votes.

Well...

I'm the Hunter.
*irritated*

You're not dead yet, you know... Nilp's still the front-runner.

Of course, if you don't die, we won't know for sure if you are hunter or not... and the wolves might not kill you tonight.
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With 2 votes and plenty of talk about me, and with minutes to spare, I'm not taking any chances. I'm not killing an innocent.
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