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Legate of Amon Lanc · 06-16-2008, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

Did we have something like an agreement on the roles? (Gah, sorry but I need to go now... I'll be back with this...)

Well we don't have, which is probably the main problem. But let's call it official and make some... voting

(Oh, what a thing, one possibly cannot get rid of that...) Or something like that, like everyone posting the character list and in it whom he would like to see in which role. I think several roles were already stated for definite, but there were still lots of others which were not...

Volo · 06-16-2008, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Frpdo, all he says in that part

Dangerous or not, a real sunrise is mighty welcome

And Boromir says nothing. Narrator says a lot.

Copy of list in one of Matthew's posts. Characters speaking in suggested part underlined.
Narrator - Oddwen
Frodo - Volo
Legolas - Nerwen, or Mac? Has this been decided?
Gimli - Nogrod (or, if Nogrod decides he would rather do Gandalf, who then?)
Boromir - Matthew
Sam - Brinniel
Merry - Lommy
Pippin - Greenie
Bilbo - Nogrod
Aragorn
Gandalf
Elrond

Downers who want to participate but don't have a character.
Legate

So I suggest Matt does Aragorn and Legate does Gandalf (or Mac or Nerwen depending who does Legolas). Let's do the deciding quick, no point in letting another few months pass. If this short passage doesn't work with these roles, we can try again with others.

Nogrod · 06-16-2008, 05:10 PM

I looked at the book and made some counting for the lines different characters have... and am suggesting a new idea.

Let's take first an excerpt that begins from where I suggested (p.298) and read it through to page 305, ending with Gandalf's line "But we must not use the wood - not unless it is a choice between fire and death".

There the story changes quite remarkably as then the getting forwards gets actually tough and the snow starts to fall etc...

And taking a few pages more we'd get everyone speaking at least a few lines.

My count of lines for every character from the end of 298 to the halfway of 305 is as follows:
(short = 1 to 2 rows, medium = from about 3 to 10 rows, long = more than that)

Gandalf - 10 med. + 5 short
Aragorn - 4 med. + 5 short

Gimli - 1 long + 1 short
Legolas - 1 medium
Boromir - 1 medium

Frodo - 2 short
Sam - 1 med. + 2 short
Pip - 4 short
Merry - 2 short

The narrator - about 2½ pages

So unfortunately those roles we're most unsure of are the ones that have the most to do...

So a Gandalf and an Aragorn?

Any ideas?

Nogrod · 06-16-2008, 05:19 PM

If I have it right there are now: Legate, Mac and Gwath without an assigned role and roles needing to be filled are those of Gandalf, Aragorn and Elrond (assuming Nerwen takes Legolas, will you? or do you have other suggestions?).

Right?

Preferences any one of you three?
Or should we vote as Legate said?

Borrowing Volo's list I think ones we seem to happy with are:

Narrator - Oddwen

Frodo - Volo
Sam - Brinniel
Merry - Lommy
Pippin - Greenie

Boromir - Matthew
Gimli - Nogrod

(Not needed as yet and thence can be changed:
Bilbo - Nogrod)

Also note that if (and when I hope) we will be doing more of this new quite juicy roles will become available...

Volo · 06-16-2008, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

Bilbo - Nogrod)

That's arguable. There's one line that might need a Bilbo is we want. -Right, forget that, the part comes slightly later. In any case, this is bloody useful. Ctrl + F

MatthewM · 06-16-2008, 05:25 PM

Welcome back, Nogrod! I know that Gwath wanted to be a part of this as well. He hasn't really voiced a preference for character, but out of Gandalf and Aragorn, I think he'd make a better Aragorn.

Ideas anybody?

Nogrod · 06-16-2008, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MatthewM

Welcome back, Nogrod!

The end of our semester and the DW II really kept me busy...

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I know that Gwath wanted to be a part of this as well. He hasn't really voiced a preference for character, but out of Gandalf and Aragorn, I think he'd make a better Aragorn.

I'd say so too... and if Legate could carry on the way he makes Gandalf shout he'd make a nice one... And I also think Mac might be best as Legolas (well, he's just marvellous as the baddies!!!) if Nerwen is not going to do that - which I'd prefer myself.

But then again Gwath seems to still have a problem with the background-noise. And that will really stick out, believe me!

Have you any chance of getting rid of that during June - July- August, Gwath? If not then I'd suggest that Legate and Mac take the two leading roles with Nerwen being Legolas.

How about you Mac and Legate try one more, being careful with the S's (avoid high-pitch ones) and avoiding speaking to your nose? And no, this is no mockery. I never learned this when I was at your age or even later... it was only by age and then joining a choir a few years ago that led me to understand these things...

And I don't mean trying like how to sound like Donald Duck or how to make an orc-growl, but listening to where the sound of your voice comes from and where it resonates. And experiment then!

If it's high up and front it's the nasal one which I don't think either Gandalf or Aragorn would have.

Bringing the voice to the middle of your mouth and thence letting it resonate in your skull makes a pleasant full voice.

Dropping it to the back of your mouth / into your throat makes it sound lower and coarser.

If you manage to get your whole body (especially your midriff) to support the sound it will be spectacular (and no... I'm not good at that myself... it's so hard).

I'd like to hear a few trials unless you others are already bored / you have clear ideas how to cast the last roles.

But those with assignments could start doing it already! As soon as I get the first files I'll start building the recording... unless Nerwen has better equipment & more time in her hands... but for now I seem to have at least time until the end of July...

Oddwen! The sooner I get your part the better! That is the backbone of all this. With your part with me I could start counting how to fit the music eg. how many melody-rounds / bars we will need approximately and thence thinking about the variations etc...

Oddwen · 06-16-2008, 09:10 PM

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Oddwen! The sooner I get your part the better! That is the backbone of all this. With your part with me I could start counting how to fit the music eg. how many melody-rounds / bars we will need approximately and thence thinking about the variations etc... Today 05:47 PM

Ha ha, I started recording at the very beginning of the chapter...I'll work from the appointed point within the next couple of days.

Nogrod · 06-16-2008, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Oddwen

Ha ha, I started recording at the very beginning of the chapter...I'll work from the appointed point within the next couple of days.

Gah!

But you'll have them ready as we get to them?

*always look at the bright side of life*

And don't worry. I will be able to actually concentrate on this the week after Midsummer's eve the earliest so no hurry... and I have a lot to do with the music just to get a clear structure in there and to decide which variations might fit whatever developement in the story.

Just don't send me too big files as you're the one with lots to do... I quess 10 MB is the limit most servers / e-mail accounts take.

So glad to hear you're on it!

Now others, show your qualities!

Nerwen · 06-16-2008, 10:09 PM

Well, I've nearly finished my exams, so I'm free from now on. I'll take Legolas, unless Mac is desperate to do so.

Nogrod, as you're doing an excellent job with the mixing, I suggest you keep on with it... but I'll be available to help out, if need be.

Oddwen · 06-16-2008, 10:15 PM

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Oddwen! The sooner I get your part the better! That is the backbone of all this. With your part with me I could start counting how to fit the music eg. how many melody-rounds / bars we will need approximately and thence thinking about the variations etc... Today 05:47 PM
Ha ha, I started recording at the very beginning of the chapter...I'll work from the appointed point within the next couple of days.

Don't worry - the first half a page clearly state that there was "no song or music"!

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Gah!

But you'll have them ready as we get to them?

*always look at the bright side of life*

Tadaa! I hope it's up to snuff! I'll email it to Nog now, and will to anyone else who wants it.

06-16-2008, 05:10 PM	#3
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	I looked at the book and made some counting for the lines different characters have... and am suggesting a new idea. Let's take first an excerpt that begins from where I suggested (p.298) and read it through to page 305, ending with Gandalf's line "But we must not use the wood - not unless it is a choice between fire and death". There the story changes quite remarkably as then the getting forwards gets actually tough and the snow starts to fall etc... And taking a few pages more we'd get everyone speaking at least a few lines. My count of lines for every character from the end of 298 to the halfway of 305 is as follows: (short = 1 to 2 rows, medium = from about 3 to 10 rows, long = more than that) Gandalf - 10 med. + 5 short Aragorn - 4 med. + 5 short Gimli - 1 long + 1 short Legolas - 1 medium Boromir - 1 medium Frodo - 2 short Sam - 1 med. + 2 short Pip - 4 short Merry - 2 short The narrator - about 2½ pages So unfortunately those roles we're most unsure of are the ones that have the most to do... So a Gandalf and an Aragorn? Any ideas? __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

06-16-2008, 05:19 PM	#4
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	If I have it right there are now: Legate, Mac and Gwath without an assigned role and roles needing to be filled are those of Gandalf, Aragorn and Elrond (assuming Nerwen takes Legolas, will you? or do you have other suggestions?). Right? Preferences any one of you three? Or should we vote as Legate said? Borrowing Volo's list I think ones we seem to happy with are: Narrator - Oddwen Frodo - Volo Sam - Brinniel Merry - Lommy Pippin - Greenie Boromir - Matthew Gimli - Nogrod (Not needed as yet and thence can be changed: Bilbo - Nogrod) Also note that if (and when I hope) we will be doing more of this new quite juicy roles will become available... __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

06-16-2008, 05:25 PM	#6
MatthewM Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New York Posts: 628	Welcome back, Nogrod! I know that Gwath wanted to be a part of this as well. He hasn't really voiced a preference for character, but out of Gandalf and Aragorn, I think he'd make a better Aragorn. Ideas anybody? __________________ "Loud and clear it sounds in the valleys of the hills...and then let all the foes of Gondor flee!" -Boromir, The Fellowship of the Ring

06-16-2008, 10:09 PM	#10
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Well, I've nearly finished my exams, so I'm free from now on. I'll take Legolas, unless Mac is desperate to do so. Nogrod, as you're doing an excellent job with the mixing, I suggest you keep on with it... but I'll be available to help out, if need be. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.