Tol-in-Gaurhoth XLVII: Dueling Wizards Werewolf II

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by tp

But as I pointed out before, our chances of hitting a WW while looking for the EW are probably just as good as hitting a WW while looking for a WW (at least on Day 1), and thus I do not want to lynch anyone today that people agree is not likely to have applied to be the EW.
Does everyone understand that point and agree with it?

Yes and yes, for me. But the current voting situation may affect my choice more than that, and people's level of suspiciousness definitely will.

Anyway, like I just said, I'd love to vote Agan. I'd also like to vote Kath because she has been rather unconstructive toDay, will probably slip under the radar, could have applied to be the EW and would be a good wolf pick for the EW. Sadly, I might have to choose someone else...


edit: xed with tp, Agan and morm

[the phantom]

I'm glad that you see where I am coming from Lommy.

Now, what do you know about Agan? Do you think she is the sort who would volunteer to be a Wizard? Does she have time for it?

And I agree with you about Kath. She was on my top five list as well.

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Now, what do you know about Agan? Do you think she is the sort who would volunteer to be a Wizard? Does she have time for it?

Big yes to both. And she'd sell her soul to be the EW.

[the phantom]

Well look who decided to show up- my baby sister! Maybe I won't try and lynch you after all.

[the phantom]

The voting-

morm for Brin
Sally for tp
Gwath for Sally
Kit for morm
Nerwen for Cailin
Roa for tp
Cel for Izzy
Rikae for morm
Izzy for Roa
Shasta for tp
Eonwe for tp
Cailin for Ner
Ka for Cel
Green for Gwath
McCab for Ner
Mac for Legate
Lal for Ner
Dur for Ner

tp- 4
Ner- 4
morm- 2
Brin- 1
Sally- 1
Cailin- 1
Izzy- 1
Roa- 1
Cel- 1
Gwath- 1
Legate- 1

10 votes have not been cast.

[Durelin]

This 'choosing' thing is a bit silly, Lommy. Vote for who you feel is suspicious! Aren't there still a number of votes floating out there anyway (no, you can't rely on people showing up, but...)? Going on about how you don't want to vote for someone and making it seem like you have to...that's like sugar-coating to hide wolfy-ness.

Edit - crossed with a few people but doesn't really matter.

[Durelin]

I just had a random (okay, not so random, because people are talking about it, as always) thought... So...we treat 'bandwagons' like negative things. Doesn't it take a bandwagon to actually get anyone lynched? Isn't a bandwagon just any number of people voting for the same person?

Yes, I'm going to rant about every little thing that annoys me about these games whenever it suits me.

[Volo]

Originally Posted by Durelin

I just had a random (okay, not so random, because people are talking about it, as always) thought... So...we treat 'bandwagons' like negative things. Doesn't it take a bandwagon to actually get anyone lynched? Isn't a bandwagon just any number of people voting for the same person?

Yes, I'm going to rant about every little thing that annoys me about these games whenever it suits me.

Oh, not now! Please...

Xd with all since quoted post.

[Durelin]

Agan and Lommy need to have stronger opinions.

What not now, Volo? No WW theory 13-or-so minutes from the deadline?

Edit: Crossed with Lommy - I spoke wrongly.

[Volo]

++Aganzir
I'll sleep calmer after this.

What not now, Volo? No WW theory 13-or-so minutes from the deadline?

Not so (vague) that we'll have a long discussion about it not leading to any decisions.

edit: Xd with Di. *sigh*

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Legate

What's with all the questions, Lommy?

What questions?

Just realised what I did.

Originally Posted by Durelin

Agan and Lommy need to have stronger opinions.

Of each other?


edit: xed with Dury's edit, Di and Volo

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

What's with all the questions, Lommy? You make the impression of a person who doesn't have own opinion to think. Which I don't think you are. Anyway, there's still looots of people to vote, so tp can be "overvoted", I think. Not that I see Nerwen lynched rather than him... although she might be a wolf, or an EW, maybe rather than him.

Tp, as for Agan being the EW... she well enough could. If it were to choose between her and some of the other two named, even she would do... but then... I really don't know. At least at the beginning I thought her innocentish. Lately probably other people's observations, or suspicions of her, influenced me as well in some way. But there are still other options which I had earlier... hm.

EDIT: x-ed since phantom's 191 post

[Volo]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Yes and yes, for me. But the current voting situation may affect my choice more than that, and people's level of suspiciousness definitely will.

I for one don't agree with tp. The people to apply for the position of a Wizards are probably not the flying under the radar people that have been said to be good choices for the Wizards for their minions. So we're not hunting the same people. I'm not quite sure if Nerwen would apply for the high post of a Wizard, neither I suspect her, after reading through her posts. I think we'd get more out of her on the later Days that would reveal her role.

Legate probably applied, but Agan is a great choice for a Wolf. Kath most certainly applied, but I have no ideas about her at the moment. Ok, let's do something before things are completely futile!

edit: Xd with all since Dury's vote.

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Volo

Legate probably applied, but Agan is a great choice for a Wolf. Kath most certainly applied, but I have no ideas about her at the moment. Ok, let's do something before things are completely futile!

Hmmm... Legate has said he's in the middle of his final exams, so I don't know if he'd be mad enough to apply to be a wizard. Of Kath I'm not sure either - I'm not sure if she's ambitious (if that's a good word here) enough to apply...


edit: xed with tp, Brin and Dury (whatever their order was)

[Lalaith]

ambitious

I think the word is hubris...

[Volo]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Hmmm... Legate has said he's in the middle of his final exams, so I don't know if he'd be mad enough to apply to be a wizard. Of Kath I'm not sure either - I'm not sure if she's ambitious (if that's a good word here) enough to apply...

Well, but Kath has nothing better to do and Legate's exams just ended (Shire thread- hey, this is stupid!! So metagame as can be - and hey, I've done that too myself!)

edit: Xd since quoted post.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Hmmm... Legate has said he's in the middle of his final exams, so I don't know if he'd be mad enough to apply to be a wizard.

Still I think he's likely to be cursed by the EW.

I'd really feel like voting for him, but I wouldn't want tp or Nerwen to die.

edit: xed since Legate

[Volo]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Still I think he's likely to be cursed by the EW.

Nah, as a ex-professional surviver I know that your tricks in the art are far superior to Legate's, which would imply more on you being a Wolf.

[Brinniel]

Ha, Aganzir is certainly twisted enough to be the EW , but I wouldn't vote for her because I think she is the EW, but because I think she's suspicious. Anyways, all this last minute talk about who might be EW is getting ridiculous (especially the meta reasons)...we really need to vote for whoever is more suspicious!

Originally Posted by Durelin

I just had a random (okay, not so random, because people are talking about it, as always) thought... So...we treat 'bandwagons' like negative things. Doesn't it take a bandwagon to actually get anyone lynched? Isn't a bandwagon just any number of people voting for the same person?

Well yes, but it's the nature of how a bandwagon comes that worries me. Like this Nerwen one came up all at once. That make it easy for a wolf to hide. Anyways, I like discussing about who to vote for before actually doing it.

[Thinlómien]

Votes this far:

I could vote
-none, it seems-

I'd rather not vote
tp- 4
Ner- 4
morm- 2
Sally- 1
Cailin- 1
Cel- 1
Legate- 1
Gwath- 1

I won't vote
Brin- 1
Izzy- 1
Roa- 1


Okay, let's waste/spread a/the vote:

++AGANZIR


edit: xed with everybody since my last post

[Diamond18]

Maybe I won't try and lynch you after all.

I will be trying harder to read/post from now on -- I forgot the game was starting until I got my Daily Digest notification of the first couple page's worth of posts. Ah well.

I think Nerwen has 4 votes now?

This 'choosing' thing is a bit silly, Lommy. Vote for who you feel is suspicious!

(Not Lommy, but responding anyway) Yeah, but this mostly gets us with a ton of people with 1 or 2 votes... and a person with 3 or 4 votes kicking the bucket. And for my part, if I would rather not see the person in the lead get lynched, it makes more sense to vote for an alternative despite having no opinion on that person, herself.

So I suppose I'll go for:

+ + Nerwen

I have yet to decide what my goal for this game is. I have no allegiance chosen for me, yet, and who knows what subsequent nights will result in. So for me the lynching today is more about who I'd rather play with in future days than who is on what side, and since I don't actually know Nerwen and do know phantom, my motivation is to save the latter. He's not a bad big bro, after all.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I just went through the voting list and I really don't feel up to voting for anyone who is on it this far. Silliness Even this Gwath, I would prefer to keep him "on ice" for now...

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Hmmm... Legate has said he's in the middle of his final exams, so I don't know if he'd be mad enough to apply to be a wizard.

Oh no, please, let's not bring such things here - it's nothing to do with the game... although I understand...

Oh, I see, besides

Originally Posted by Volo

Well, but Kath has nothing better to do and Legate's exams just ended (Shire thread- hey, this is stupid!! So metagame as can be - and hey, I've done that too myself!)

Exactly, however a bad conclusion - now see where this metagame thinking goes - my exams have not been finished yet. Not all of them. Just some. So you see. Anyway... enough of this... should vote...

EDIT: x-ed since some Volo or what I quoted

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

All right... whatever. Looking at the votes... If there's a chance to have Aganzir there... why not try...
EEE, but I don't like the idea of lynching her!

But more so than Nerwen... or do I...

(That's called schizophrenia.)

All right, I know what I will do: I will vote for Aganzir, but in fact, I will be maybe comfortable if it's Nerwen who ends up lynched. (Or I won't. Depends on who she shows to be...)

[Brinniel]

++Aganzir