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Old 06-01-2008, 06:43 AM   #1
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Whew! Don't worry about the outline. The story that is being finished up is what counts, not the old outline. Thanks for the reassurance.

By the way, I have not forgotten about Jorje. His role will yet be critical. You will see.
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Old 06-01-2008, 07:47 AM   #2
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More dreams:

http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=329
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=299
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=297
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=285
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=282
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=270
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=252

Pages 1 - 6 yet to go, and then I can start on the songs.

I have a plot contradiction to deal with. In posts 290ff, Tharonwe forces Raefindan to dream of himself as Imrazor and of Imrazor killing Mithrellas. Then in recent posts I have had Tharonwe not having realized Mithrellas was even there, caring for Nimrodel. How on earth do I resolve this? What was Tharonwe's reason for trying to confuse Raefindan regarding Mithrellas in the first place? Ack!
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Old 06-01-2008, 02:49 PM   #3
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I have a plot contradiction to deal with. In posts 290ff, Tharonwe forces Raefindan to dream of himself as Imrazor and of Imrazor killing Mithrellas. Then in recent posts I have had Tharonwe not having realized Mithrellas was even there, caring for Nimrodel. How on earth do I resolve this? What was Tharonwe's reason for trying to confuse Raefindan regarding Mithrellas in the first place? Ack!
Maybe it is the strength of Mithrellas herself, who caused Tharonwe to, ahem, forget.

The Valar caused Amroth to "forget" 1000 years of history, and waiting, a couple of times.

Tharonwe's been so busy torturing the important folks he forgot, or perhaps discounted, the quiet unassuming servants. If they're quiet and unassuming, they must be insignificant anyway. ...Just a thought or so. But I like the idea of Mithrellas hiding herself from Tharonwe, and "letting " him conveniently forget her.
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Old 06-01-2008, 03:06 PM   #4
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Maybe it is the strength of Mithrellas herself, who caused Tharonwe to, ahem, forget.

The Valar caused Amroth to "forget" 1000 years of history, and waiting, a couple of times.

Tharonwe's been so busy torturing the important folks he forgot, or perhaps discounted, the quiet unassuming servants. If they're quiet and unassuming, they must be insignificant anyway. ...Just a thought or so. But I like the idea of Mithrellas hiding herself from Tharonwe, and "letting " him conveniently forget her.
I think it was the part about Mithrellas also forgetting her name; that would to me signify a weakness of spirit that wouldn't jibe with the strength I've come to see in her. I realize that the forgetting had to do with the curse, which I suppose I could allow to stand as it is, but somehow I just can't see Mithrellas giving in completely to such a curse.

I do like your idea about Mithrellas causing Tharonwe to forget about her amid all his concern about Amroth, Erebemlin, and Roy Edwards and Indil, even - which would be perfect irony.
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Old 06-01-2008, 03:34 PM   #5
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I think it was the part about Mithrellas also forgetting her name; that would to me signify a weakness of spirit that wouldn't jibe with the strength I've come to see in her. I realize that the forgetting had to do with the curse, which I suppose I could allow to stand as it is, but somehow I just can't see Mithrellas giving in completely to such a curse.

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Mithrellas finds her, after a long hard search. She waits on her, and takes care of her. For long years they dwell there, til Nimrodel forgets her name and takes the names given her by the dead. but Although the curse burdens, opresses and wearies her, Mithrellas brings food to Nimrodel and never abandons her. When Elessar breaks the curse and frees the Dead during the War of the Ring, Nimrodel and Mithrellas are freed as well.
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Old 06-01-2008, 03:56 PM   #6
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Well, I was working on a post that involved a flash forward to her wandering in the mountains, but then I reread the outline and saw that Mithrellas leaves first, then she finds Amroths body, all before wandering. Not sure how to go about the next part, but I am working on it.

Any advice would be most appreciated as I'm working on the dream sequence stuff.

Thanks!
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Old 06-01-2008, 06:21 PM   #7
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Yup, thanks.

Alak, I really don't know what advice to give you. Just keep at it, and if there are any problems we'll give you gentle feeback. K?
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Old 06-01-2008, 07:28 PM   #8
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Also: we don't have to go into grim and gory detail for each and every event. Or we'll be here til 2012.... Somestuff can be flashback, or, 'she remembered forty years of such and such as if it were yesterday..." If you have a "wandering" post that you like, either slap it onto the game thread and see what we think, or, put it up here, and we'll either run with it, or, save it til the right moment, and fit it in that way.

We'll work with ya, Alak!!
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Old 06-01-2008, 07:29 PM   #9
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Songs

Mellondu

http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...07&postcount=1

Liornung

http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...1&postcount=48
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...9&postcount=65
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...2&postcount=82 (2nd)
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...3&postcount=87 (2nd)
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...2&postcount=93
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...5&postcount=99
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=116
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=135
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=253
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=259
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=304
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=306
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=389
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=477
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=524
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=621
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=655

Ædegard

http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...2&postcount=82 (1st)
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...6&postcount=83
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...2&postcount=85
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...3&postcount=87 (1st)
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=263
http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpos...2&postcount=30

Amroth

http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...9&postcount=84
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...7&postcount=94

Bellyn

http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...0&postcount=91
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=223
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=257
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=382
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=552
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=679

Argeleafa

http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=332

Marigold

http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=627

There are very few songs in Tapestry 2. More dreams, though. That is all of them.
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Old 06-01-2008, 02:59 PM   #10
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Yet more dreams:

http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=209
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=202
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=144
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...20&postcount=9

Don't think I missed any, but who can be sure? Next, the songs.
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Whew! Don't worry about the outline. The story that is being finished up is what counts, not the old outline. Thanks for the reassurance.

By the way, I have not forgotten about Jorje. His role will yet be critical. You will see.

Er, well, I am not WORRIED about theoutline, but I would like to know which parts set off your alarms. Mithrellas is stronger than... what? Specifically?

Wanting to be on the same page, and all.
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