Dueling Wizards Werewolf II discussion thread

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Then I just seemingly missed the conclusion reached.

I think the arguments behind that conclusion were never made this open though, so it was good the issue arised anyway.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Concerning Legate's question: yes I think it would be fair for the gifteds to know who they have actually targeted. I was a wolf myself in the first DW and being totally in the darkness was a bit annoying. Given that information the gifted might at least speculate herself what is going on. So unless anyone strongly objects this with good reasons I'd like the gifteds (and wolves) to know what the wizards final decision was.

About the modfire then. If someone doesn't post anything on two Days in a row she will be modfired eg. removed from the game. I don't know whether you consider this a light or strong version of it but to me it looks like not playing and thence getting removed.

All okay.

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

*giggles and casts a sideway glance to Aganzir*

Originally Posted by Aganzir

*giggles and casts a sideway glance at Lommy*
Let's just hope that the lean abhorred monster won't take sally to be his paramour... But a pity that our ww got him to dislike the story this much.

I really have no idea what these two are talking about...

[Shastanis Althreduin]

I asked Isabell. Waiting on an answer...

[THE Ka]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Only the fact that I haven't had too much time to play the Sims recently helps me to resist the temptation to create a Sims neighbourhood for this.

Same here indeed, but mostly because I was unsure about guessing everyone's physical appearance and insulting someone by accident.

Though, I'm a bit afraid what you'd do to my sim after the last WW...

I'm racking my head of who to invite, but everyone I know for the most part has already been asked. Such a small world...

~ Ka

[Macalaure]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

There will be no immediate "replacements". If a gifted dies during the Night the GW can scry her roster full the next Night the earliest.

But if a gifted is turned into an ordo by the EW, then that gifted did not actually die.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

First of all there is no basic difference between the two options as the gifteds only work at Nights with special powers (and if the gift can be reassigned in the beginning of the next Night then there is no loss from the GW's viewpoint as the new gifted is fully operational that Night).

You lost me. Sure, if a gifted is killed, then by the nightly order, the gift of that individual already took effect, so there's no issue there. But if a gifted is "ordo-ed" by the EW, that gift is lost to the good team for this particular night (because the scry takes place before the abilities of the gifted). It is only reassigned and fully operational the next night.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Secondly when scrying her roster full the GW is after the EW eg. trying to find out who she is. That is not automatically the same person she would like to have as her gifted so we should leave the choices to the GW and not force them upon her.

That's true. The question is what is worse to the GW and whether we want him to have this disadvantage to the EW (whose minions are immediately replaced). There would, of course, also be the possibility to ask the GW what he wants, or to let him give his decision on this matter beforehand each time.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

I think the arguments behind that conclusion were never made this open though, so it was good the issue arised anyway.

At your service.

[Roa_Aoife]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

The question is what is worse to the GW and whether we want him to have this disadvantage to the EW (whose minions are immediately replaced).

I just want to remind you that there is a greater risk to the EW than simply being down a wolf if the GW scries one. The scried wolf immediately changes teams, and all the info that they have goes with them. The absolute worst risk that the GW faces is a lost dream if the seer is turned, a role which the GW is already filling at that point. When the gifted roster is full, the good team has two seers. They don't need automatic respawns to balance the game.

[Macalaure]

Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

I just want to remind you that there is a greater risk to the EW than simply being down a wolf if the GW scries one. The scried wolf immediately changes teams, and all the info that they have goes with them. The absolute worst risk that the GW faces is a lost dream if the seer is turned, a role which the GW is already filling at that point. When the gifted roster is full, the good team has two seers. They don't need automatic respawns to balance the game.

That's a fair point, though of course the knowledge of each individual wolf will probably be kept very limited by the EW.

I'm just concerned about the unbalance that seemed to exist in the previous DW, so I was looking for possible disadvantages for the good team. They lose a gift, while the "gifts" of the evil team (# of kills) is not impaired in the equivalent situation. Sure, the evil team loses a member immediately when he's scried, but in turn the size of the team is not limited.

I'm sorry if I appear picky about this point.