Dueling Wizards Werewolf II discussion thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Volo · 05-10-2008, 02:44 PM

You have my suicidal tendencies:

I'm going to be Aganzir's pet as I guess it's ok with her. What exactly being her pet is still debatable.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 05-10-2008, 02:51 PM

Remember Loki?

Lhunardawen · 05-12-2008, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

Remember Loki?

Oh, that was the most stinging "I told you so" ever said by anyone in a Werewolf game.

After having skimmed through the first DWW (goodness, it took me hours! I almost want to commit suicide again!

), I have a few things to say, just to get things off my shoulders:

1. Just to clarify, either wizard cannot refuse a duel once the other challenges. Right? But they do have the choice not to challenge right away even if the identity of the other is already revealed to them.

2. Yes, I think it would be better if the player scried by both wizards is killed. I don't know how we'll all react if this happens again. *points up*

3. I agree that the GW should also be given three players to scry on Night 1. (And trust Mac to know his maths - the Night 1 scry list should indeed include more than 5 people.)

4. I go with the standard 3 wolves = 1 Night kill, and then maybe just add one kill for each added wolf? Would that sway the balance too much? If so then maybe there can be 2 Night kills for 4 to 6 wolves. I seriously hope we don't get more than 6 wolves at a time!

5. 7 AM (my time) deadline should be good, that will give me the night to catch up. (Who needs to study, do homework, and sleep?)

6. Sorry, I must be really dim, but when are wizards and minions allowed to communicate again?

7. I still say no to retractable votes. Double lynches...hmm...is it not enough that there's a possibility that more than one person could be killed at Night? And we're not always wise with our lynch victims (understatement of the year). I'll go with no.

8. Perhaps Eomer would consent to be sub-mod? Oh, no, that would be weirder than he and Cailin playing together. Forget I mentioned it.

9. I'd like to be an apprentice healer. Will someone take and train me?

10.

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

If the EW gets everything right and luck favours her she will get the sixth wolf on Day4. Then the total of villagers will be about -6 from the starting line-up. So from 30 it will be 24/6, from 25 it will be 19/6 (1/3 being 18/6). But it's not probable the EW will get everything her way...

But by then there will already have been several lynches and Night kills...won't the Bad Team be in too much of an advantage?

The GW could be limited to the three Gifteds, and other scries can be Ranger protections (except if the EW also scries that person, of course) or de-wolfings. Once a Gifted is ungifted or killed, then the GW can regift...but until how many times? If the second Seer, for example, is also killed or ungifted, what then? Can the GW gift someone until he's dead?

11. I remember that the last game there were a couple of Seer dreams lost and the Hunter failed to make a choice because (I'm not sure if this goes for all those cases) they wanted to discuss their options with the GW but ran out of time. Is extending one phase an option? Or will they be allowed to converse Day and Night?

12. I think there was a Hunter complication last game, and I'm not sure if that has already been addressed.

I think I'll go and do something about this headache. I'm sorry if I also gave you one - I'm not feeling most coherent.

Nerwen · 05-13-2008, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Lhunardawen

9. I'd like to be an apprentice healer. Will someone take and train me?

Sure. Consider yourself apprenticed. (Hope this makes up for lynching you on Day One in the last game.)

There you go, Nogrod– I'm the Healer.

Lhunardawen · 05-13-2008, 12:56 AM

Do you really think you could make up to me just like that? Just like that?

Whee! That's wonderful.

Cailín · 05-13-2008, 01:55 AM

I shall be a guinea pig breeder. It will be my sole occupation to populate this little village with cute, furry animals. If that is too silly, let me know.

As for a submod, Eomer cannot do it, but you'll really need one Nogrod, or a temporarily higher PM limit.

I'll respond to all the rule thingies and discussion tonight.

Aganzir · 05-13-2008, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Gwathagor

You....dog! You dastardly, under-handed...dog! You've stolen Aganzir, and you don't even care about her. You just want her money. However, because you are my younger brother, I shall not let this divide us. I shall stand by the two of you and protect you. But I'll never marry. I shall be a loner until the end of my days. (This is becoming rather romantic).

What money? My mummy's chocolate, you mean?
And don't worry, Gwath - if your brother happens to die before you, I'm yours.

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Originally Posted by Lhunardawen

maybe there can be 2 Night kills for 4 to 6 wolves.

I think this would be good. However, if there ever were to be more than six wolves, I think they could have just two kills as well. It would take time for the EW to scry seven wolves, and if they got three kills a night I think that would make it unbalanced.

No to retractable votes and multiple lynches.

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Originally Posted by McCaber

You're just jealous 'cause she's hot. And I have to care about Aganzir to get her before you can. But thank you, Gwath. It's always good hearing that your big bro's got your back.

Oh! you're making me blush, darling.

Aganzir · 05-10-2008, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Volo

I'm going to be Aganzir's pet as I guess it's ok with her. What exactly being her pet is still debatable.

You can be a dog or a cat if you wish - I'll decide which one I want after deciding what kind of a character I will have.

Volo · 05-10-2008, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Aganzir

You can be a dog or a cat if you wish - I'll decide which one I want after deciding what kind of a character I will have.

I decided that she won't decide. I'll be a dog that thinks he's a cat, that fears he's a mouse, and wishes he was a bat. If that doesn't suit Aganzir's role I'm sure there's someone else who wants me as his/her pet.

If not, I'm a stray dog with several deceases, including a plague, or two.

Macalaure · 05-10-2008, 04:20 PM

Rikae and I confirm our participation. We can join in any case, but it would be more comfortable if it started after June 2nd.

Of course we're going to be a couple in this game. Does anybody desire to be adopted?

Kath · 05-10-2008, 04:55 PM

++KATH

I'm aware I'm still in the other game at the moment, but I'm in for this! Did disastrously last time so I'd like another go at it!

If anyone would like to be in a family with me just give me a yell. I'm open to offers.

Nogrod · 05-10-2008, 05:34 PM

This is looking good indeed!

I'm trying to draft the first version of the rules tomorrow. They will be subject to change as the discussion about them will then show which things are to be changed in the end.

Also it seems that a couple of players would be more readily able to play after June takes over. To me it would be convenient as I come back home on May 25th and I will have a really busy week after that so starting the game with a Night-phase on May 30th or 31st would be very good for me.

If there are more people who'd need to start the game earlier than that we can do it as well. So waiting for your comments...

The deadline could be anything if the game starts on the May 30th or 31st. I'm starting my summer vacation then and all the times are just fine.

A kind of natural deadline to me - and to the European players would be something like 7-11PM GMT. How about you Americans? Any suggestions? The times I would like to take off from the list of possible deadlines would be 11PM GMT to 8AM GMT. I'd like to sleep some of that period...

So anything between 8AM GMT - 11 PM GMT will work.

I'll be structuring the participators-list according to their relations little by little. Please keep on coming forwads with the suggestions of any affairs or relations with each other. The more entangled into the families we get this thing to be the better.

PS. If you wish to give a description of your character or her/his trade please let me know so that I can add it to the list & take it into consideration when writing narratives...

the phantom · 05-10-2008, 08:19 PM

Well, of course I'd like the cutoff to be around 5 or 6 AM GMT (12 or 1 AM my time), but seeing as that probably won't work for many (including Sir Nog) I will cast a vote for the latest time offered up- 11 PM GMT.

1) Mac and Rikae, may I be your son?

2) Anyone want to be my brother or sister?

3) Hmmm... marriage is a big step. I think I'd prefer to be engaged first, and see how that goes. Would anyone like to be a fiance rather than a wife?

05-10-2008, 02:44 PM	#1
Volo Silver in My Silent Heart Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the great beauty Posts: 1,611	You have my suicidal tendencies: I'm going to be Aganzir's pet as I guess it's ok with her. What exactly being her pet is still debatable. __________________ Fenris Wolf The EVEN NEWER Barrow-Downs Photo Page

05-10-2008, 02:51 PM	#2
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Remember Loki? __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

05-10-2008, 04:55 PM	#11
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	++KATH I'm aware I'm still in the other game at the moment, but I'm in for this! Did disastrously last time so I'd like another go at it! If anyone would like to be in a family with me just give me a yell. I'm open to offers. __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

05-10-2008, 05:34 PM	#12
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	This is looking good indeed! I'm trying to draft the first version of the rules tomorrow. They will be subject to change as the discussion about them will then show which things are to be changed in the end. Also it seems that a couple of players would be more readily able to play after June takes over. To me it would be convenient as I come back home on May 25th and I will have a really busy week after that so starting the game with a Night-phase on May 30th or 31st would be very good for me. If there are more people who'd need to start the game earlier than that we can do it as well. So waiting for your comments... The deadline could be anything if the game starts on the May 30th or 31st. I'm starting my summer vacation then and all the times are just fine. A kind of natural deadline to me - and to the European players would be something like 7-11PM GMT. How about you Americans? Any suggestions? The times I would like to take off from the list of possible deadlines would be 11PM GMT to 8AM GMT. I'd like to sleep some of that period... So anything between 8AM GMT - 11 PM GMT will work. I'll be structuring the participators-list according to their relations little by little. Please keep on coming forwads with the suggestions of any affairs or relations with each other. The more entangled into the families we get this thing to be the better. PS. If you wish to give a description of your character or her/his trade please let me know so that I can add it to the list & take it into consideration when writing narratives... __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet... Last edited by Nogrod; 05-10-2008 at 06:18 PM.

05-10-2008, 08:19 PM	#13
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Well, of course I'd like the cutoff to be around 5 or 6 AM GMT (12 or 1 AM my time), but seeing as that probably won't work for many (including Sir Nog) I will cast a vote for the latest time offered up- 11 PM GMT. 1) Mac and Rikae, may I be your son? 2) Anyone want to be my brother or sister? 3) Hmmm... marriage is a big step. I think I'd prefer to be engaged first, and see how that goes. Would anyone like to be a fiance rather than a wife? __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

05-13-2008, 12:56 AM	#5
Lhunardawen Hauntress of the Havens Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IN it, but not OF it Posts: 2,538	Do you really think you could make up to me just like that? Just like that? Whee! That's wonderful.

05-13-2008, 01:55 AM	#6
Cailín Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lurking in the shadows. Posts: 711	I shall be a guinea pig breeder. It will be my sole occupation to populate this little village with cute, furry animals. If that is too silly, let me know. As for a submod, Eomer cannot do it, but you'll really need one Nogrod, or a temporarily higher PM limit. I'll respond to all the rule thingies and discussion tonight.

05-10-2008, 04:20 PM	#10
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,911	Rikae and I confirm our participation. We can join in any case, but it would be more comfortable if it started after June 2nd. Of course we're going to be a couple in this game. Does anybody desire to be adopted?