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Legate of Amon Lanc · 05-02-2008, 04:47 PM

Oh my, if anyone's behaving like a Cobbler here, then it's... everyone... I have never seen such a crazy Day 1! Or is it the late hour?

But really now, what to talk about? La-di-dah... I don't think we should bother with trying to discover which gifted (if any) we have here, since this was brought forward. What else? Let's wait what others write. Should I bring something else forward?

I don't like Mith's activity combined with her behavior. But whatever. She and Nogrod are the Wolves, of course. Now I am speaking out my honest gut feelings. They are trying to confuse us and all, and making it seem like they have nothing in common with each other. Which of course would be very silly thing to do in this time. So they actually are not together. So it's just Mith. Or just Nog. But one of them sure is. And I should go to sleep.

No, actually, I don't think they are now that I read it again. I should really go to sleep.

(I think this would cause enough controversy for the good of this game. I should play in late hours more often. Good night.)

EDIT: x-ed with Noggins Woggins. Baggins. Shire...

Legate of Amon Lanc · 05-02-2008, 04:56 PM

Noggins actually speaks sense! He speaks very well. I just hope he does not use snake tongue, like one of my friends once did. But I would like to hope not, and I think he does not.

But now I'm really going to sleep. And please stop speaking French - il est vraiment possible que plusieurs hommes ne comprennent pas, so please stop that, dattebayo!

Thinlómien · 05-02-2008, 04:57 PM

I find it hilarious that Legate complains about everybody being crazy and acting like cobblers and then does both of those things himself - more than anyone else this far. If he's deliberatedly being confusing, I don't like it. If his brain is not functioning properly at this hour, he should go to sleep like himself suggested. And if he is just trying to be amusing, he's succeeding in that very well.

(Erm... this might be Lommy-flip-flopping for you, anyone?)

But actually he makes a valid point about Nog and Mith interacting a bit weirdly - while not seeing the latest evidence because he's cross-posting with it! Should I conclude something from it? Is this a fishy pre-arranged wolf scheme? If so, it looks so pretty darn obvious and silly that he, Nog and Mith would probably not come up with such. Unless they want to double bluff.

Yes, this is utterly crazy. And sleep wouldn't be bad for me either, I guess - but I'm just not tired at the moment. Anyway, I have a feeling that this discussion is getting rolling (if not in very wise or well-defined directions though), and it's good.

edit: xed with Legate - I see he started speaking French too. Where is Nerwen to speak some more French? And where are the other French speakers?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 05-02-2008, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien

I find it hilarious that Legate complains about everybody being crazy and acting like cobblers and then does both of those things himself - more than anyone else this far. If he's deliberatedly being confusing, I don't like it. If his brain is not functioning properly at this hour, he should go to sleep like himself suggested. And if he is just trying to be amusing, he's succeeding in that very well.

(Erm... this might be Lommy-flip-flopping for you, anyone?)

Oh no no no, this is NOT Lommy flip-flopping! Lommy flip-flopping looks different! This looks more like an attempt to make a "construct Lommy-flip-flopping". And now you are clinging upon what suspicions have been raised by pondering them, but of course not being bold enough to stand behind them really - just raising more concern around the already mentioned things. And saying "this might be Lommy-flip-flopping" is really the last thing by which you try to make an excuse for yourself. But on second reading, it's not that bad. And I really am not acting normally for myself, really, now reading what I wrote just a short while ago. But that's the hour - it's letting me give out my usual carefulness of approach. But at least my conscience is clean. Or as far as I can tell. Let's really go to sleep for now.

Hm. Lommy looks innocent, actually. The more I read it. Just wait when I sleep on it, what I'll have to say about it. Not sure if I'm gonna be here in the early hours of tomorrow, meaning my tomorrow, like about 10 hours from now, it's most probable that I'll be back only some 15 or so hours from now. But that'll be still plenty time. Good night, folks. And this time really. Hopefully. Indeed. Sorry for the long rant. I should stop playing when being awake late at night.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 05-02-2008, 05:32 PM

So, short summary till now (and I think mostly in reasonable state, as much as it's possible now):

Mith - veery suspicious
Lommy - quite good
Nog - wise and okay

others - not enough data

*crawls into a giant toad's mouth and falls asleep*

Oddwen · 05-02-2008, 06:03 PM

Hi. Oh my, I am just itching to get away from my stupid furniture because I don't understand it and it makes me uncomfortable inside wah wah poor Menel is that enough obligatory roleplay.

"Birdie birdie in the sky, drop some white stuff in my eye
Me don't wonder, me don't cry
I'm just glad that cows don't fly!"

COWS!

I also am not a fan of first Days. Nothing. To. Say. Yet.

I will, however, take some herbal tea if you've any.

Lhunardawen · 05-02-2008, 06:44 PM

Oh Day Ones, how I missed thee indeed...

Not.

Legate, believe me, there ARE crazier Day 1s. But thanks for contributing your share of the craziness.

So. Thirteen people. Yes, this could very well be a rather ordinary game, having the usual special people in their usual number/s, but knowing the mod god, I'm sure there will be a twist here somewhere... I realise that wasn't very helpful. How can anyone say anything of importance this early?

Maybe we should just lynch the French speakers one-by-one, who knows if they're not actually doing their Night planning right under our very noses this morning?

Nogrod · 05-02-2008, 06:51 PM

Oddwen just sprang to share the top my list this far. One can hate Day1's to be sure but to make it an excuse like Gwath did earlier just makes me ready to pull my voting-trigger...

Legate sounds like he has enjoyed more of the good life than is encouraged by the state authorities... which makes him look more innocentish than not this far.

Lommy sounds reasonable and good... and that's just the problem with her. She could sound like that were she a wolf. But for the time being I'm not wishing to vote for her as there will be people less helpful in this game as well...

EDIT: X'd with Lhuna - you're making it to the same group with Oddwen and Gwath...

Lhunardawen · 05-02-2008, 07:36 PM

Mith
- first to post, should speak in her favour
- incriminates herself by using Physics terms, but redeems herself with "migratory patterns" and "anachronism"
- thinks there could be 3 wolves, and no one could claim to be gifted
- wants people to talk
- thinks there could be a Finnish wolf, statistically
- rather innocent, in my opinion

Noggie
- thinks anyone can pose as anyone, and suspects Mith of either sidetracking or not thinking about the gifted issue enough
- suspects Gwath's first post as wolvish, and Mith's backtracking of words
- again suspects Mith's statistical arguments, but appreciates her activity
- puts Oddwen and Lhuna at the top of his list for the same reason as Gwath
- thinks Legate innocentish
- Lommy confuses him
- either a sneaky wolf or a trigger-happy innocent

More to come.

Lhunardawen · 05-02-2008, 07:58 PM

As for the others, Volo is a lost explorer, Agan is sweet and innocent (or so she claims), Gwath is a guilty lawyer and is likely to ignore Legate's plea for insanity, and Oddwen is crazy and innocent.

So my pine cones tell me.

But if everyone's just going to keep silent, I might as well go about my own business. See you all later.

Gwathagor · 05-02-2008, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

Oddwen just sprang to share the top my list this far. One can hate Day1's to be sure but to make it an excuse like Gwath did earlier just makes me ready to pull my voting-trigger...

Now look...I feel the same way about Oddwen's post, as she is just mimicking me and I think a couple others (?). That looks suspicious because repeating someone else is such an obviously safe move. However, Nogrod, you were awfully quick to identify my post as "wolvish"? You took no convincing whatsoever, so either you are trigger-happy and innocent, as Lhun said, or you really do know whether I am innocent or guilty. And THAT looks suspicious, because the only way you could know that is if you are a wolf yourself. I lean towards trigger-happy innocent, based on the sheer quirkiness and irrationality of your attack on my first post - if there's anything a wolf cannot afford to be, it is irrational. Or so my vast experience of Three Whole Games would lead me to believe. But don't give me reason to think otherwise.

I like Lhuna's clear lists - those are very helpful, as long as she limits herself to facts and not value judgments (as if such a distinction exists!).

There is a high level of goofiness in this village right now, and I am not sure whether to praise or condemn it. On the one hand, humor can be used to obscure the true nature of things. On the other hand, of course, it may also sometimes express greater truth because humorous statements are spoken by our most relaxed and natural selves. Of course, humor and silliness requires a bit of deciphering, sooo I suppose I am undecided.

Maybe everyone will settle down tomorrow.

Legate, as always, is reasonable and impenetrable. I never know what to make of him, but I don't like his "honest gut feelings." It's too easy a basis for suspicion, and requires no actual evidence. However, his other posts don't depend on "honest gut feelings", so maybe he's alright. MAYBE. We'll see.

05-02-2008, 04:47 PM	#1
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Oh my, if anyone's behaving like a Cobbler here, then it's... everyone... I have never seen such a crazy Day 1! Or is it the late hour? But really now, what to talk about? La-di-dah... I don't think we should bother with trying to discover which gifted (if any) we have here, since this was brought forward. What else? Let's wait what others write. Should I bring something else forward? I don't like Mith's activity combined with her behavior. But whatever. She and Nogrod are the Wolves, of course. Now I am speaking out my honest gut feelings. They are trying to confuse us and all, and making it seem like they have nothing in common with each other. Which of course would be very silly thing to do in this time. So they actually are not together. So it's just Mith. Or just Nog. But one of them sure is. And I should go to sleep. No, actually, I don't think they are now that I read it again. I should really go to sleep. (I think this would cause enough controversy for the good of this game. I should play in late hours more often. Good night.) EDIT: x-ed with Noggins Woggins. Baggins. Shire... __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

05-02-2008, 04:56 PM	#2
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Noggins actually speaks sense! He speaks very well. I just hope he does not use snake tongue, like one of my friends once did. But I would like to hope not, and I think he does not. But now I'm really going to sleep. And please stop speaking French - il est vraiment possible que plusieurs hommes ne comprennent pas, so please stop that, dattebayo! __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

05-02-2008, 04:57 PM	#3
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	I find it hilarious that Legate complains about everybody being crazy and acting like cobblers and then does both of those things himself - more than anyone else this far. If he's deliberatedly being confusing, I don't like it. If his brain is not functioning properly at this hour, he should go to sleep like himself suggested. And if he is just trying to be amusing, he's succeeding in that very well. (Erm... this might be Lommy-flip-flopping for you, anyone?) But actually he makes a valid point about Nog and Mith interacting a bit weirdly - while not seeing the latest evidence because he's cross-posting with it! Should I conclude something from it? Is this a fishy pre-arranged wolf scheme? If so, it looks so pretty darn obvious and silly that he, Nog and Mith would probably not come up with such. Unless they want to double bluff. Yes, this is utterly crazy. And sleep wouldn't be bad for me either, I guess - but I'm just not tired at the moment. Anyway, I have a feeling that this discussion is getting rolling (if not in very wise or well-defined directions though), and it's good. edit: xed with Legate - I see he started speaking French too. Where is Nerwen to speak some more French? And where are the other French speakers? __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

05-02-2008, 05:32 PM	#5
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	So, short summary till now (and I think mostly in reasonable state, as much as it's possible now): Mith - veery suspicious Lommy - quite good Nog - wise and okay others - not enough data crawls into a giant toad's mouth and falls asleep __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

05-02-2008, 06:03 PM	#6
Oddwen Drummer in the Deep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Next Sunday A.D. Posts: 2,145	Hi. Oh my, I am just itching to get away from my stupid furniture because I don't understand it and it makes me uncomfortable inside wah wah poor Menel is that enough obligatory roleplay. "Birdie birdie in the sky, drop some white stuff in my eye Me don't wonder, me don't cry I'm just glad that cows don't fly!" COWS! I also am not a fan of first Days. Nothing. To. Say. Yet. I will, however, take some herbal tea if you've any. __________________ But all the while I sit and think of times there were before I listen for returning feet and voices at the door

05-02-2008, 06:44 PM	#7
Lhunardawen Hauntress of the Havens Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IN it, but not OF it Posts: 2,538	Oh Day Ones, how I missed thee indeed... Not. Legate, believe me, there ARE crazier Day 1s. But thanks for contributing your share of the craziness. So. Thirteen people. Yes, this could very well be a rather ordinary game, having the usual special people in their usual number/s, but knowing the mod god, I'm sure there will be a twist here somewhere... I realise that wasn't very helpful. How can anyone say anything of importance this early? Maybe we should just lynch the French speakers one-by-one, who knows if they're not actually doing their Night planning right under our very noses this morning?

05-02-2008, 06:51 PM	#8
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Oddwen just sprang to share the top my list this far. One can hate Day1's to be sure but to make it an excuse like Gwath did earlier just makes me ready to pull my voting-trigger... Legate sounds like he has enjoyed more of the good life than is encouraged by the state authorities... which makes him look more innocentish than not this far. Lommy sounds reasonable and good... and that's just the problem with her. She could sound like that were she a wolf. But for the time being I'm not wishing to vote for her as there will be people less helpful in this game as well... EDIT: X'd with Lhuna - you're making it to the same group with Oddwen and Gwath... __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

05-02-2008, 07:36 PM	#9
Lhunardawen Hauntress of the Havens Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IN it, but not OF it Posts: 2,538	Mith - first to post, should speak in her favour - incriminates herself by using Physics terms, but redeems herself with "migratory patterns" and "anachronism" - thinks there could be 3 wolves, and no one could claim to be gifted - wants people to talk - thinks there could be a Finnish wolf, statistically - rather innocent, in my opinion Noggie - thinks anyone can pose as anyone, and suspects Mith of either sidetracking or not thinking about the gifted issue enough - suspects Gwath's first post as wolvish, and Mith's backtracking of words - again suspects Mith's statistical arguments, but appreciates her activity - puts Oddwen and Lhuna at the top of his list for the same reason as Gwath - thinks Legate innocentish - Lommy confuses him - either a sneaky wolf or a trigger-happy innocent More to come.

05-02-2008, 07:58 PM	#10
Lhunardawen Hauntress of the Havens Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IN it, but not OF it Posts: 2,538	As for the others, Volo is a lost explorer, Agan is sweet and innocent (or so she claims), Gwath is a guilty lawyer and is likely to ignore Legate's plea for insanity, and Oddwen is crazy and innocent. So my pine cones tell me. But if everyone's just going to keep silent, I might as well go about my own business. See you all later.