Who should direct "The Hobbit"?

[Mister Underhill]

Originally Posted by Bêthberry

I've googled for dialogue from that scene, but all I come up with are videos.

You can get the script here. Good ol' internets has it all these days.

EDIT: Better version here.

Originally Posted by Bêthberry

The scene itself to me suggests the truth of Tolkien's observations on allegory and realism.

Could you elaborate on this?

[Bêthberry]

Originally Posted by Mister Underhill

You can get the script here. Good ol' internets has it all these days.


EDIT: Better version here.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bêthberry
The scene itself to me suggests the truth of Tolkien's observations on allegory and realism.

Could you elaborate on this?

You has most interesting links, Mister U and better (or more) internets than me. Danke!

As for my thoughts about realism and allegory, I was not thinking so much of Tolkien's comments in the Foreword to LotR, but some of his observations in his Letters. Unfortunately I don't have them to hand now--packed away pending work on new library--so I canna quote and don't have them by memory. (I know, terribly failing that. What kind of fan am I that don't know the letters chapter and verse?)

The fascination of Chigurh I think lies in the dual nature of the character. He, as most of the film, is depicted with a specifically, intensely realised realism. But the character isn't just a hitman, a brutal human being. He is more, approaching the status almost of a Bergman-like Death personified--and this is not just in Chigurh's mind. How the character achieves both states is a fascinating part of the movie. And Tolkien talked about this kind of allegory in one of his letters, as I recall.

[Morthoron]

Originally Posted by Bêthberry

The fascination of Chigurh I think lies in the dual nature of the character. He, as most of the film, is depicted with a specifically, intensely realised realism. But the character isn't just a hitman, a brutal human being. He is more, approaching the status almost of a Bergman-like Death personified--and this is not just in Chigurh's mind. How the character achieves both states is a fascinating part of the movie. And Tolkien talked about this kind of allegory in one of his letters, as I recall.

Yes, he was rather like the chess-playing reaper in The Seventh Seal. Strange movie, and without Chigurh (and Badem's portrayal), just a run-of-the-mill drug-deal-gone-bad chase movie. Not a very eucatastrophic ending either, eh Beth?

[Bêthberry]

Originally Posted by Morthoron

Yes, he was rather like the chess-playing reaper in The Seventh Seal. Strange movie, and without Chigurh (and Badem's portrayal), just a run-of-the-mill drug-sale-gone-bad chase movie. Not a very eucatastrophic ending either, eh Beth?

I wouldnt leave out Badem's hair style either--nor the very strange way that people pass by each other without connecting. (Are the only connections deaths?) That at least provided some difference from the run of the mill movie type.

But as for the definite lack of eucatastrophe, indeed, a very telling reason why the Cohen Brothers would be, as you said, "unnatural" to direct TH.

Now, to return to a movie StW suggested: if ET could appeal both to children and adults--as did Aladdin--why can not a movie of TH? Why would the producers/writers/director have to choose either the adult or the child frame of reference?

[Almesiva Moonshadow]

We want Peter Jackson!!!

PJ has already proven himself to be an exellent director with the LOTR trilogy
if any man is acctualy capable of filming "The Hobbit",then it is definitly Pete...

I dont think any other director can do the job...