The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum


Visit The *EVEN NEWER* Barrow-Downs Photo Page

Go Back   The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum > Middle-Earth Discussions > The Books
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts


 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
Old 03-27-2008, 10:26 AM   #7
skip spence
shadow of a doubt
 
skip spence's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Back on the streets
Posts: 1,125
skip spence is battling Black Riders on Weathertop.skip spence is battling Black Riders on Weathertop.
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Might View Post
You seem to have forgotteon one key aspect while making your first assumption - the Elendil-stone was never kept at Mithlond, but in the Tower of Elostirion, tallest of the 3 White Towers that were build by Gil-Galad for Elendil. These towers were only guarded by the Elves.
This is developing into a very speculative argument but what the heck...

I still believe that Mithlond would have been a walled and well protected place. I said the palantir would be a reason alone to guard the city. There are many other reasons too. Like I mentioned earlier, Cirdan would have learnt the hard way not to put trust in a lasting peace. If seriously threatened by a hostile army, the palantir could also quickly be relocated to the Havens if required.

Quote:
As far as Gondor and the Hobbits are concerned I still must strongly disagree. Firstly about the Hobbits, I believe that this quote from "Concerning Hobbits" should prove most informative:
I actually think the quote is more supportive of my point of view than of yours.

Quote:
Indeed, few Hobbits had ever seen or sailed upon the Sea, and fewer still had ever returned to report it.
So some had seen the sea and lived to tell the tale after all...

Quote:
And as the days of the Shire lengthened they spoke less and less with the Elves, and grew afraid of them, and distrustful of those that had dealings with them
Apparently some spoke with the elves as well, although they were not many.

Quote:
As such, there is little doubt in my mind that Hobbits had almost nothing to do with the Elves of Lindon
This I agree with. They had almost nothing to do with the elves of Lindon. I don't think there ever was any trade between Lindon and the Shire. After all, what did the Hobbits have that the elves needed? But every now and then a crazy Took or two must have made their way into Lindon, if they weren't denied entry.

I also agree that the contacts between Lindon and Gondor must have been minimal or non-existant towards the end of the third age. However, there certainly was a time when the Elves did have dealings with the men of Arnor and to some degree Gondor..
__________________
"You can always come back, but you can't come back all the way" ~ Bob Dylan

Last edited by skip spence; 03-27-2008 at 10:31 AM.
skip spence is offline   Reply With Quote
 


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:31 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.