Gay subtext? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Vitesse · 01-17-2002, 12:21 PM

It's not my intention to make the Wight angry or kill the discussion, but I think that some things need to be said here:

Also, you are equal to Rhud at enflaming tensions by asserting your "that is who they are" premise.

But it's not "who they are" - it's who *I* am.

I'll try to explain via allegory -

When somebody asks me how to change a head gasket on an MGB, I know what to tell them because I've changed a head gasket on an MGB before - I know how to do it and have actually done it already. If somebody else came along and made a bold assertion about how to change an MGB head Gasket after only having read about how to change a head gasket on a Mazda RX-7 (who's rotary engine is entirely different from an MGB's, and doesn't have a conventional head gasket), who's advice would you take if you wanted to know how to change the head gasket on your MGB?

I am Gay, as I said before, and that probably means that I have a better understanding about whether or not being gay is a "lifestyle" or a "choice" or a "sin" than somebody who's entire world view on the subject is determined solely by a 2000 year old text - however revered it may be.

homosexual lifestyle.

It's not a lifestyle. I don't want to cause discord or have really negative arguments here, I like the downs because it's a place where I can get lost in Tolkien lore at will. But there are some things that I just can't stand to hear, and this is one of them.

It isn't a lifestyle - touring with Phish is a lifestyle. Being a Goth is a lifestyle. Being a car freak is a lifestyle. But being gay is not - it isn't a choice, it isn't an affectation or a fashion accessory. I'm sad to hear that intellegent people honestly believe that being gay is a "lifestyle" that somebody chooses. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

But looking at the subject from a practical and unbiased viewpoint, the gay Sam theory is very weak, and to quote Vitesse's earlier post, "I don't buy it."

Well at least we agree on that. I just don't see it, in any of the characters.

[ January 17, 2002: Message edited by: Vitesse ]

01-17-2002, 12:21 PM	#1
Vitesse Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Minas New Yorkith Posts: 13	It's not my intention to make the Wight angry or kill the discussion, but I think that some things need to be said here: Also, you are equal to Rhud at enflaming tensions by asserting your "that is who they are" premise. But it's not "who they are" - it's who I am. I'll try to explain via allegory - When somebody asks me how to change a head gasket on an MGB, I know what to tell them because I've changed a head gasket on an MGB before - I know how to do it and have actually done it already. If somebody else came along and made a bold assertion about how to change an MGB head Gasket after only having read about how to change a head gasket on a Mazda RX-7 (who's rotary engine is entirely different from an MGB's, and doesn't have a conventional head gasket), who's advice would you take if you wanted to know how to change the head gasket on your MGB? I am Gay, as I said before, and that probably means that I have a better understanding about whether or not being gay is a "lifestyle" or a "choice" or a "sin" than somebody who's entire world view on the subject is determined solely by a 2000 year old text - however revered it may be. homosexual lifestyle. It's not a lifestyle. I don't want to cause discord or have really negative arguments here, I like the downs because it's a place where I can get lost in Tolkien lore at will. But there are some things that I just can't stand to hear, and this is one of them. It isn't a lifestyle - touring with Phish is a lifestyle. Being a Goth is a lifestyle. Being a car freak is a lifestyle. But being gay is not - it isn't a choice, it isn't an affectation or a fashion accessory. I'm sad to hear that intellegent people honestly believe that being gay is a "lifestyle" that somebody chooses. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] But looking at the subject from a practical and unbiased viewpoint, the gay Sam theory is very weak, and to quote Vitesse's earlier post, "I don't buy it." Well at least we agree on that. I just don't see it, in any of the characters. [ January 17, 2002: Message edited by: Vitesse ]