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Old 02-14-2008, 09:56 AM   #1
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Shasta voted Nerwen, not Rikae.
Gosh, I knew there was something wrong with my count there. Thanks, I'll correct it right away.
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Old 02-14-2008, 10:06 AM   #2
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Re-counting the votes gives us a tally of:

Shasta > Nerwen (Nerwen 1)
Rikae > Nerwen (Nerwen 2)
Nerwen > Rikae (Rikae 1, Nerwen 2)
Legate > Rikae (Rikae 2, Nerwen 2)
Sally > Nerwen (Rikae 2, Nerwen 3)
Gwath > Nerwen (Rikae 2, Nerwen 4)
Nogrod > Rikae (Rikae 3, Nerwen 4)
McCaber > Rikae (Rikae 4, Nerwen 4)

It's up to you LG - and how I do hope now you're not a wolf...

We can't have four wolves around and Farael promised there are no surprises (like cobblers). So I must say these votes really should be scrutinised toMorrow.
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Old 02-14-2008, 10:07 AM   #3
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Shasta, then.

His first post says
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I suppose now one must wonder just why he was so adamantly against Rikae.
Even after that he seems to be supporting the theory of Rikae being a wolf. Then, when he casts his vote, he reasons it with
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Since I have to vote right now, for fear of modfire, and there are many others who believe Rikae to be guilty, I'm going to place another option up. A "just in case something turns up", but also someone I'm a bit suspicious of.

++Nerwen
Generally I don't understand people who vote for someone else than their top suspect unless it is not some special case (eg. saving an innocent from being lynched etc). His reasoning left me quite baffled.

Overall he looks somewhat suspicious, but not quite on the reddest zone or anything. I'll have the famous tight eye on him I suppose.

edit: x-ed with McCaber and Nog
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Old 02-14-2008, 10:12 AM   #4
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The flood continues.

Nog is either playing a very neat wolf or is an innocent. Nothing to quote, nothing that makes me suspect him. Should I call that suspicious? The only thing I'd like to bring up about him is his his constant underlining and certainty of that the wolves will kill him. Why exactly do you assume that, Nog, and why repeat it so much?

And, so that it is done, here comes my vote.

++ Rikae

For the reasons I stated earlier. Am I indeed the last one to vote?
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Old 02-14-2008, 10:49 AM   #5
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I might just try to look at this now. Yes we do not know the outcome but I'm as convinced on Rikae's guilt one can be in a ww-game unless a seer has openly revealed and then gotten killed & proved true. And anyhow we could try to spot the possible innocent(s) from there as we can't have four wolves.

Surely one wolf might have voted for Rikae as well but I can't believe there are two of them - or then this village is the most confused ever seen in the Barrow Downs.

Votes for Nerwen:
1. Shasta > Nerwen (Nerwen 1)
2. Rikae > Nerwen (Nerwen 2)

5. Sally > Nerwen (Rikae 2, Nerwen 3)
6. Gwath > Nerwen (Rikae 2, Nerwen 4)

Okay then.

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Since I have to vote right now, for fear of modfire, and there are many others who believe Rikae to be guilty, I'm going to place another option up. A "just in case something turns up", but also someone I'm a bit suspicious of.
Now this might be an innocent speaking here but still I think I'm smelling a rat here. This would be very safe indeed for a fellow wolf while not arousing too much suspicion (the early vote + the explanation) he still would have eased Rikae's struggle.

innocence-factor 20%


Rikae
voted for Nerwen because she had built up a case on her all the game and had managed to win many people to think her way about Nerwen. She has played magnificiently (I mean this is going to the lorebooks!) but Menel clearly had dreamt of her and that's the end of her story.

innocence-factor 1%


Sally
had this very wolfy-plan of lynching Nerwen toDay and leaving Rikae as the "safe bet" for toMorrow. But now if we managed to lynch Rikae only with votes 5-4 when there are 6 innocents and 3 wolves how could we have lynched her toMorrow with possibly 3 wolves and only 4 innocents left? There's also the point about Rikae shying away from voting Sally on Day2 and sacrificing Mac instead with a vote given so late no one could change the situation any more (poor Mac waited for her online the last minutes to vote and give him a chance... how evil!).

innocence-factor 15%

Gwath
I suspected already yesterDay as I have found his actions erratic and confusing (we just may have different logics or something). His last post about how impressed he was with Rikae's emotionally loaded performance kind of talks in favour of his innocence but not on behalf of his werewolf-wits. Sorry Gwath but I'm afraid you have been fooled this time. Good players like Rikae can pull anything out from their hats - it has been seen many times before. And Gwath's logic is misguided at least in the sense that Rikae had no other chance: being hunted monomaniacally by the revealed seer leaves one with only a few options... So a misguided ordo or a wolf?

innocence-factor 30%


What's your take on this? That's my opinion.

Btw. this doesn't mean the Rikae-voters should be considered safe either. A witty wolf would cease the day if s/he saw innocents making bad decisions and voting for the non-wolf and thence voting for her/his mate just to gain credibility for the last Days. It would be wise indeed.

But speculating about the wolves here should be left for toMorrow as we are then 100% sure about Rikae and see whom the wolves have taken out from the equiation during the Night.
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Old 02-18-2008, 10:45 AM   #6
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Of course, Legate of Dol Guldur, even if there'd been time and I'd seen Gwath's vote on you, it would have been a hard decision– because I was more sure about McCaber, and if you were a wolf, too...

Why, then I'd have to accept that on Day 3 a bunch of innocents all decided to lynch me instead of a wolf who had been trussed up and handed to them by the Seer.

To quote Nogrod, when looking over the votes after Rikae was lynched:
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Surely one wolf might have voted for Rikae as well but I can't believe there are two of them - or then this village is the most confused ever seen in the Barrow Downs.
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Old 02-18-2008, 10:48 AM   #7
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Worst. Game. Ever.

I successfully voted for the Seer twice and at the end when it counted, I made Nerwen and Gwath out to be wolves when neither of them were.

I deserve to keep dying off day 1!
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Old 02-18-2008, 10:56 AM   #8
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I successfully voted for the Seer twice and at the end when it counted, I made Nerwen and Gwath out to be wolves when neither of them were.
...With the result that both of us favoured you as a suspect!
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Old 02-18-2008, 10:57 AM   #9
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Worst. Game. Ever.

I successfully voted for the Seer twice and at the end when it counted, I made Nerwen and Gwath out to be wolves when neither of them were.

I deserve to keep dying off day 1!
Hey, no way! It was great to play with you for so long - although I know if may sound a little twisted from me... But you enjoyed it, at least, didn't you?

And don't say you were too bad. Take it the other way, positively: say, rather, that we were too good
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Old 02-18-2008, 11:00 AM   #10
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Worst. Game. Ever.

I successfully voted for the Seer twice and at the end when it counted, I made Nerwen and Gwath out to be wolves when neither of them were.

I deserve to keep dying off day 1!


I disagree. Notice that I called two of the wolves at the start of the game, and then decided to completely forget about Cabbie and let Rikae live in an effort to kill little Nerwen over there. Although, I still hold that the whole exchange between the two of them looked staged. Then again it was, just not by who I thought.
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Old 02-18-2008, 11:12 AM   #11
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There's something odd here. I thought Gwath's vote and mine crossed, but now that I read the thread again, I see that I posted twice after he voted.

Must have been so anxious I didn't see it, somehow. Ah, well. It's been a comedy of errors all round.

Hi, Sally. Next time you find someone "furry beyond furry", maybe you'll reconsider, hmmn?

You realize the evil McCaber planted that idea about me in your head, don't you?
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Worst. Game. Ever.

I successfully voted for the Seer twice and at the end when it counted, I made Nerwen and Gwath out to be wolves when neither of them were.

I deserve to keep dying off day 1!
It's OK. I had you figured for a werewolf as well. I KNEW Legate was bad, but McCaber had me convinced he was innocent.
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Good choice you made in killing me on Night 3, Wolves. I was going to reveal myself on Day 3, bring down Rikae, whom I had dreamed of on Night Two, and reveal my other two dreams: Nogrod (Night 1) and Sally (Night 3).

Had I not been killed, Sally wouldn't have died and maybe we would have been able to catch the other wolves.

And I notice that Nogrod picked up on the fact I'd dreamed of him on Dy One. Very good thinking, and your way of influencing the villagers was why I dreamed of you first.

The wolves did an excellent job in this game. I really think Rikae's being spotted was sheer luck on my part.
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