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Old 02-07-2008, 03:06 PM   #1
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I bought the index.... though I do not claim necessarily to be in my right mind ..after all I rather enjoy Christopher Tolkien's dry humour ..... but if you are looking for information on a specific character or topic and own the whole set it is an absolute godsend to be able to go direct to the most useful volumes rather than check 12 indexes.
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Old 02-07-2008, 03:13 PM   #2
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I bought the index.... though I do not claim necessarily to be in my right mind
Don't sweat it mate, none of us are.
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Old 02-07-2008, 03:15 PM   #3
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As someone's sig once said - reality is very nice but I wouldn't want to live there
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Old 02-07-2008, 03:54 PM   #4
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Hey isn't there a another volume which has a story of Hurin that's never been published? Is that any good? Which volume is it in?
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Old 02-07-2008, 04:09 PM   #5
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You maybe mean The War of the Jools, or HME XI The War of the Jewels which includes (very basically):

The Grey Annals

The Later Quenta Silmarillion II (following after HME X)

The Wanderings of Húrin (and other texts)

Æfwine and Dírhaval 'introductory note' to the Narn i Chin Húrin

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Of the Ents and the Eagles (later additions to the chapter of Aulë and Yavanna are discussed)

The Tale of Years

Quendi and Eldar (a linguistic essay)

the Awakening of the Quendi (in an appendix, a child's tale mingled with counting lore)

Thanks to Mellonath Daeron.
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Old 02-08-2008, 07:41 PM   #6
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Skip spence, you're probably not going to like The War of the Jewels as much as you liked Morgoth's Ring. The Grey Annals and the Later Quenta doesn't add up much to your knowledge, since most of the information extant in the published Silmarillion are derived from these writings (and from the Annals of Aman as well). Anyhow, it may be relevant to read the original writings in their entirety.

Moreover, there's also a long linguistic essay entitled "Quendi and Eldar", which probably is not interesting at all to the dislikers of linguistics (as you said you were ). The only "new" tale is "The Wanderings of Húrin", which tells the real story of Húrin after his release from Angband.

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You guys are complaining about the price of the set of books, but in my country these books are even more expensive!! Luckily, I've got them all.

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Old 02-08-2008, 09:41 PM   #7
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I mean, could this really be a economically viable project? Or are there really enough Tolkien maniacs and academics around for it to justify the 13 books?
Just barely. Rayner Unwin originally committed to just four volumes, which CT envisioned (at first) as the Lost Tales, the Lays, and a sort of UT-style miscellany. Unwin expected to break even at best, even though no advance or pre-profit royalties were paid (similar to the LR thirty years before). CT's motivation was as much as anything to respond to many readers (like me) who had been asking about the Lost Tales etc and wanted to know if they would ever see the light of day. (The foreword to UT contains an oblique reference to the possibility).

However, the Lost Tales sold much better than expected, selling out the initial print run and I believe cracking the lower end of the bestseller list, and the project was expanded, piecemeal. The Lord of the Rings was never part of the original plan, and even when he finished The Lost Road CT still thought the LR would take only two volumes! It was also as I understand it a rather late decision to include the complete texts of the Annals of Aman and Grey Annals together with the post-LR Quenta Silmarillion, making two volumes where one had been envisioned; and Vol XII didn't become a history of the Appendices until CT was already in the middle of it.

Vols 1, 2, and 6-9 made a profit in their initial hardcover release. 4 and 12 lost money. The rest just about broke even. Of course, their continued availability in paperback has improved the numbers slightly: but CT has not nor ever intended to make any significant amount of money on what was simply a labor of devotion and scholarly interest. If he really wanted to coin his father into gold there were much, much, easier, sleazier and more lucrative things he could have done!
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