WW XXXXI: With a Twist

[Macalaure]

I was wondering what the twist about this game was, and now I at least know one. We are having ourselves a cobbler here. I don't think a wolf would pose as the seer at this point in the game.

Farael, honestly, even if I didn't know you were posing from knowing my own role, I wouldn't believe you - at least not easily. Your scene up there looks all too cobblerish. It's cobblers who like to make such a spectacle out of themselves.

[Farael]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

I was wondering what the twist about this game was, and now I at least know one. We are having ourselves a cobbler here. I don't think a wolf would pose as the seer at this point in the game.

Farael, honestly, even if I didn't know you were posing from knowing my own role, I wouldn't believe you - at least not easily. Your scene up there looks all too cobblerish. It's cobblers who like to make such a spectacle out of themselves.

Macalaure I am beyond "fear" of being killed or even lynched right now. True, you may manage to turn the village against me today, but a day later you'll be done for. What I just hope is that you don't manage to find the cursed villager before then.

[Farael]

Just in case my last comment wasn't clear, the fact that I know my role and I know two wolves means that I can just enjoy having fun and speaking up without fear of getting lynched/killed at night. Yes, I mean to help the village as much as I can for the possibility that the cursed has been turned, but I'm not going to "quiet" anything down... I'll speak my mind!

[Macalaure]

Originally Posted by Farael

Macalaure I am beyond "fear" of being killed or even lynched right now. True, you may manage to turn the village against me today, but a day later you'll be done for. What I just hope is that you don't manage to find the cursed villager before then.

Well, I am not beyond fear. Although I am just an ordo, being lynched would put the wolves into a better situation.

I find it strange that you are beyond it. With the help of the ranger, you could at least survive one more night, which means one more dream and one more chance to catch the cursed who might have turned into a wolf tonight, or in the coming night. With the considerable possibility of one more wolf, the real seer would care to remain alive.

[Farael]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

Well, I am not beyond fear. Although I am just an ordo, being lynched would put the wolves into a better situation.

I find it strange that you are beyond it. With the help of the ranger, you could at least survive one more night, which means one more dream and one more chance to catch the cursed who might have turned into a wolf tonight, or in the coming night. With the considerable possibility of one more wolf, the real seer would care to remain alive.

Actually, the help of the ranger is a given and the fact that i'll die the night after that is likely too, unless you manage to discredit me... in that case, you'll keep me alive as long as you can so that you don't get shown a wolf.

Come on Mac let's face it... if you die this day, which I hope you will, I get shown the Seer. As such, I'm a liability for the wolves and will get attacked two nights from now. If you turn the village against me and discredit me as a cobbler who should be left alive but ignored, you may survive for a while... but I'll keep on dreaming!

Of course, the only thing oyu CAN do right now is to keep me alive but discredited and pray you find the cursed and I don't dream of him. However, if you discredit me, I am sure there are enough smart players in here that will choose to lynch me just in case and well, while I don't want that to happen, I already decided that it was a good enough effort to give the village two wolves (one of them being you who has carefully positioned himself almost beyond suspicion) and pray they can find the possible third one on their own.

It's all I can do really, to try and live until the end, knowing the identity of two wolves is detrimental to the village as i may get killed and take that information with me.

[Macalaure]

Originally Posted by Farael

Come on Mac let's face it... if you die this day, which I hope you will, I get shown the Seer. As such, I'm a liability for the wolves and will get attacked two nights from now. If you turn the village against me and discredit me as a cobbler who should be left alive but ignored, you may survive for a while... but I'll keep on dreaming!

I did not say I intend to keep you alive. We need to know you're not the seer. We can only do so by lynching you - or lynching me. For obvious reasons I prefer the former to the latter. I have no reason to doubt Rikae's ranger claim, so lynching her to obtain certainty is the worst we could do.

What I really am puzzled about is why you chose Rikae to be your other wolf. There must have been better choices.

[Farael]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

I did not say I intend to keep you alive. We need to know you're not the seer. We can only do so by lynching you - or lynching me. For obvious reasons I prefer the former to the latter. I have no reason to doubt Rikae's ranger claim, so lynching her to obtain certainty is the worst we could do.

Yet you called me the cobbler, and we both know that if you find the cobbler you don't lynch him, you ignore him... as he counts as an "ordo" in the final tally, he gives the innocents another day to catch the wolves.

Of course, I called your bluff and now you have to try and get me lynched...

By the way, if Rikae truly were the [B]Ranger[/B} why would she come out and say it?

Worst case scenario, YOU get lynched and found an ordo and I get discredited... why claim to be the Ranger so soon?

Of course, other than to cow other villagers to follow her lead.

[Macalaure]

Originally Posted by Farael

Yet you called me the cobbler, and we both know that if you find the cobbler you don't lynch him, you ignore him... as he counts as an "ordo" in the final tally, he gives the innocents another day to catch the wolves.

Who said that? Harmless cobblers can be left alive. Dangerous cobblers, and you no doubt are one, should rather be lynched. We need certainty here.

Of course, I called your bluff and now you have to try and get me lynched...

I don't know what bluff you are talking of. I want to get you lynched and nothing else. I said so before.

++Farael

Because he was thought by many an ordo...

Did I miss something yesterday?

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Farael

However, if you discredit me, I am sure there are enough smart players in here that will choose to lynch me just in case

So there may very well be.

++Farael

And to the other players - if Farael is lynched and turns out to be the seer, you have two wolves. However, if he is the cobbler and you lynch me or Macalaure today, you will have lost both your known innocents by tomorrow.