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Nerwen · 12-23-2007, 02:08 AM

'Nother hint, please.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 12-23-2007, 04:51 AM

Oh my, don't tell me no one knows. Had I seen this line of names anywhere, that would be the first to pop up in my mind. It's what I consider a common knowledge among at least middle-Tolkien-educated fans.

The parentheses are variant writings. But even the first three should be obvious.

These are names of Valar, right? And that is all you need to know. Of WHICH Valar?

The placement of the names is based on something, though not necessarily to bother with that for solving the riddle. Because it also could be in different order, depending. Though I believe Aulë should be on the first place.

That was a hint.

Gwathagor · 01-10-2008, 10:55 PM

Um. In order of power from least to greatest? Maybe?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 01-11-2008, 04:18 AM

Nay. Why would Oromë be there twice? And why would there be the parentheses? Btw the fact that Oromë is there twice, or in other words, there are two Oromës (includes hint), could help you if you think about it.

Okay, maybe if I write it another way, it will be more apparent:

1. Aulë
2. Oromë
3. Yavanna
4. Oromë (or Mandos + Nienna)
5. Manwë + Varda (or Irmo)

Legate of Amon Lanc · 10-05-2008, 11:29 AM

*sigh* *eeek* That's just too bad. Reviving this thread if just anybody was in the mood to continue it...

I wonder anyway, if the question I posed was so hard - it's quite simply by itself - you have five names of Valar (or sometimes it's several names at once, but together, the pairs or singles or whatever still make up five), and also the names are chosen from among the Valar in the way that one has to just wonder what connects these Valar?

Azaghâl · 10-07-2008, 05:37 AM

These are the names of the Valar associated with the five Istari, according to Unfinished Tales.

1. Aulë - Curumo
2. Oromë - Alatar
3. Yavanna - Aiwendil
4. Oromë (or Mandos + Nienna) - Pallando
5. Manwë + Varda (or Irmo) - Olórin

Legate of Amon Lanc · 10-07-2008, 11:53 AM

Very good! You are really good - and lately almost the only one

- in answering my riddles, Azaghal. Please, could you give us a new riddle then?

12-23-2007, 04:51 AM	#2
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Oh my, don't tell me no one knows. Had I seen this line of names anywhere, that would be the first to pop up in my mind. It's what I consider a common knowledge among at least middle-Tolkien-educated fans. The parentheses are variant writings. But even the first three should be obvious. These are names of Valar, right? And that is all you need to know. Of WHICH Valar? The placement of the names is based on something, though not necessarily to bother with that for solving the riddle. Because it also could be in different order, depending. Though I believe Aulë should be on the first place. That was a hint. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

01-10-2008, 10:55 PM	#3
Gwathagor Shade with a Blade Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: A Rainy Night In Soho Posts: 2,512	Um. In order of power from least to greatest? Maybe? __________________ Stories and songs.

01-11-2008, 04:18 AM	#4
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Nay. Why would Oromë be there twice? And why would there be the parentheses? Btw the fact that Oromë is there twice, or in other words, there are two Oromës (includes hint), could help you if you think about it. Okay, maybe if I write it another way, it will be more apparent: 1. Aulë 2. Oromë 3. Yavanna 4. Oromë (or Mandos + Nienna) 5. Manwë + Varda (or Irmo) __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

10-05-2008, 11:29 AM	#5
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	sigh eeek That's just too bad. Reviving this thread if just anybody was in the mood to continue it... I wonder anyway, if the question I posed was so hard - it's quite simply by itself - you have five names of Valar (or sometimes it's several names at once, but together, the pairs or singles or whatever still make up five), and also the names are chosen from among the Valar in the way that one has to just wonder what connects these Valar? __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

10-07-2008, 11:53 AM	#7
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Very good! You are really good - and lately almost the only one - in answering my riddles, Azaghal. Please, could you give us a new riddle then? __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

12-23-2007, 02:08 AM	#1
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	'Nother hint, please.

10-07-2008, 05:37 AM	#6
Azaghâl Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 95	These are the names of the Valar associated with the five Istari, according to Unfinished Tales. 1. Aulë - Curumo 2. Oromë - Alatar 3. Yavanna - Aiwendil 4. Oromë (or Mandos + Nienna) - Pallando 5. Manwë + Varda (or Irmo) - Olórin