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Legate of Amon Lanc · 12-05-2007, 01:38 PM

No, no... what to say...

WHAT they represented... not WHO they represented... not relationship but... well, yes, what they represented... I don't know how to say that better... emphasise the WHAT... WHAT... like an... well, object...

If you don't get it now, then tell me and I will post a hint that will aim at it from some other point of view.

The Might · 12-05-2007, 01:44 PM

Maybe they represented a pair or something like that. (not in the romantical way)
So would Elros then be the match for Elron do make a pair as well.

Nerwen · 12-06-2007, 02:45 AM

Hint, please.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 12-06-2007, 07:07 AM

I was thinking what kind of hint should I give. Maybe if you have anyone any specific request of which direction should I aim my hint.

But first, let me emphasise the fact that what I am speaking of can be found really in the book, in the story of Thrór and Nár (at least the part of the riddle that concerns these two).

The best thing I can do is to suggest to try whether you can find parallels between Elrond's life and the story of Thrór and Nár. And if there was ever similar thing that happened to Elrond (not the whole story, but some aspects of it).

Nerwen · 12-06-2007, 09:29 AM

But Elrond had such a long life!

Mind if I ask what age this parellel even took place in?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 12-06-2007, 03:35 PM

Well, that would be helping quite a lot...

But okay, I can tell you that it wasn't in Beleriand.

And I am referring to only one single event. In both of the stories: Nár's and Elrond's.

The Might · 12-06-2007, 04:05 PM

I can only think of Celebrian for now, who was tormented by the Orcs.

12-05-2007, 01:38 PM	#1
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	No, no... what to say... WHAT they represented... not WHO they represented... not relationship but... well, yes, what they represented... I don't know how to say that better... emphasise the WHAT... WHAT... like an... well, object... If you don't get it now, then tell me and I will post a hint that will aim at it from some other point of view. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

12-05-2007, 01:44 PM	#2
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Maybe they represented a pair or something like that. (not in the romantical way) So would Elros then be the match for Elron do make a pair as well. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

12-06-2007, 07:07 AM	#4
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	I was thinking what kind of hint should I give. Maybe if you have anyone any specific request of which direction should I aim my hint. But first, let me emphasise the fact that what I am speaking of can be found really in the book, in the story of Thrór and Nár (at least the part of the riddle that concerns these two). The best thing I can do is to suggest to try whether you can find parallels between Elrond's life and the story of Thrór and Nár. And if there was ever similar thing that happened to Elrond (not the whole story, but some aspects of it). __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

12-06-2007, 03:35 PM	#6
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Well, that would be helping quite a lot... But okay, I can tell you that it wasn't in Beleriand. And I am referring to only one single event. In both of the stories: Nár's and Elrond's. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

12-06-2007, 04:05 PM	#7
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	I can only think of Celebrian for now, who was tormented by the Orcs. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

12-06-2007, 02:45 AM	#3
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Hint, please.

12-06-2007, 09:29 AM	#5
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	But Elrond had such a long life! Mind if I ask what age this parellel even took place in?