Eorling Mead Hall Planning/Discussion Thread

[littlemanpoet]

Loose hay, lots of wod, open air, a raging fire as so far described, the nearest water all the way around the back of the guest wing of the place. And most everybody's energies are so far concerned with saving the horses, hang the stables. The only way that the stables can realistically be saved is to have a sudden and very hard downpour. How has the weather been described so far?

At any rate, we're going to be leaving Edoras behind soon anyway, so what difference does it make?

EDIT: Okay, I read your post now, Foley. Key question #1: "How long does it take Thornden to create manhandled order compared to how long it takes for the already raging fire to consume the stable?" I had forgotten about the water in the troughs, but that would admittedly not last long at all. Key Question #2: how long a line does it take, and how many people will it take to make the line, and how many buckets? I have my doubts.

[Folwren]

Well, I had hoped some...but I guess what you say makes sense. However, if the hay was not altogether loose, if it were baled, would it make much difference? P'raps not. If if they hay were slightly damp, it could account for the thick smoke described in the posts, but not provide much flame. However, this sort of fire is dangerous, too, because it is difficult to put out 'damp fires' and it is often deceitful...when you think it's out, it's not and it smolders and lights again...

Weather has not been described, to my knowledge.

At any rate, we're going to be leaving Edoras behind soon anyway, so what difference does it make?

Well, the most difference I see it making is the gravity of what Javan's done. If the stables aren't completely destroyed, then to my mind, he just might not be in as much trouble. On the other hand, if they're burned down to the ground, or rendered useless, then I imagine people will be a bit more upset with him.

Key question #1: "How long does it take Thornden to create manhandled order compared to how long it takes for the already raging fire to consume the stable?"

Not sure, actually. I was hoping not too long. And I was hoping the fire wouldn't burn too quickly, but I have little experience with such thing. I know how firewood burns when its old, dead, and brittle, but...well...I don't know.

Key Question #2: how long a line does it take, and how many people will it take to make the line, and how many buckets? I have my doubts.

I wasn't sure how many buckets to make it. I said ten or twelve, but that could be incorrect. I couldn't make it too terribly many buckets - how many do they keep around the place? As for the men? I didn't think about it that indepthly. Sorry.

So, what I gather from your post - No, the stables may not be saved.

[littlemanpoet]

The stables, residence wing, and Hall make up an enclosed courtyard. The well is near the Alder Court. So what looks like a final stall, on the map, must be a walk-through end, opening out to both west and east. It's 20 feet from the end of the stables to the back/paddock along the west side of the residence wing (I detest calling it such a modern term). It's another 50 feet around the back, between the paddock and the building, to the well. 70 feet total is the shorest distance. That would require, at perhaps 5 feet per person, 14 people at the very least. With 12 buckets going back and forth, the buckets spend probably a minute each in transit one way; what's left after all the sloshing gets dumped on the raging fire, then the bucket takes another minute to make its way along the confused line (buckets coming from both directions) to get filled with water. Only way to make this work is for there to be about 100 buckets. Thornden's plan, well meaning as it is, is doomed to failure, because the entire place simply is not designed to withstand a fire. Worse, since the stables are connected to the residential wing, it's a great danger that the fire will spread right into the guest quarters. Once Eodwine has his head, this will be his main priority. I'll write a post accordingly.

The attachment is the latest Eorling Mead Hall layout.

As for Javan, once Eodwine learns that he is responsible for setting the fire, especially from trying out Falco's pipe in secret, it doesn't matter what state the stables are in. The lad is altogether too irresponsible to have around; not to mention dangerous.

[Folwren]

A-ah. Okay. That'll have to work, then. I hope you're not terribly displeased. lol.

As for Javan's fate, very well. I had figured it must be something like that (at least). After all, this is a rather serious thing.

-- Folwren

[Folwren]

Nerindel, I'm counting on your Matrim to find Javan where he is. And if you don't, hopefully someone else will.

Elempi, what should happen next? Should we wait for Firefoot and Nerindel and anyone else who happens to come by in the mean time to post before going on and finishing the poor stables off?

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

I think so. In my last post I considered narrating the end-game, but decided to hold off. Let's see what a day or two brings. Nerindel? Firefoot? Noggie? Lommy? Lhuna?

Firefoot! What a post! (I didn't get a chance to read it until now) Please don't kill off Léof! What's going to happen?

[Folwren]

Okay, Elempi, I agree - we'll hold off a couple days.

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

Firefoot! What a post! (I didn't get a chance to read it until now) Please don't kill off Léof! What's going to happen?

My thoughts exactly. Though, I have read the post all the way through.

-- Folwren