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Very nice and interesting questions Feredir.
![]() Gandalf hints that the Ring has a will of it's own, and as Tolkien mentions in several places that the Ring does exude it's own lust, it's own 'pull.' I don't think I can explain the corruption of the Ring any better than Gandalf: Quote:
Sam, is a gardener, he loves it, and so when he is faced with the temptation of the Ring... Quote:
) has as much to do with the individual, as the Ring is not 'all-corrupting.'Let's take Gollum and Faramir for instance. Gollum immediately falls to the temptation of the Ring, and even murders to get it. Sam on the other hand resisted the Ring and even gave it back to Frodo. In his Letters Tolkien wrote that Gollum was 'mean-spirited' and the 'mean son of a thief' and also: Quote:
Than we have someone like Faramir, who rejects the Ring right from the start, because as he tells Frodo: Quote:
Hopefully that mostly provides the answers to what you were looking for.
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Maybe I could add something more. Concerning just the "result" of corruption, Gollum (or Bilbo, or Frodo) would ultimately become something similar to the Nazgul (only weak and somewhat - just shadows, not any "great pale kings of horror"). The thing is, that they - probably from a large part due to their halfling nature - never reached the state of ultimate consumption by the Ring. As we know, Gollum even almost repented. Gandalf says:
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It is also important in some aspects that the "fading" the One Ring causes is somewhat different in nature from the "fading" caused by the Nine Rings (or the Seven, for that matter - btw, we know the Dwarven bearers also never "faded" due to their toughness). The Nine are meant to enslave the bearer, being "channels" to Sauron's will, but the One is that will that enslaves others. This is a slight difference and maybe some won't agree with me, but I believe it plays its part as well. What I want to say is, somewhat roughly speaking, that the Nine or Seven have the intention (now that the One was forged) to make you a Nazgul, while the One makes you fade just as a "side effect".
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With regard to 'fading' and Gollum's reaction as opposed to the Ringwraiths:
Tolkien (thru Gandalf) tells us in Chapter I/2 that a mortal who often uses the Ring to become invisible will eventually become fixed in that state permanently; T makes it clear elsewhere that Smeagol/Gollum never actually wore the Ring much under the mountains, it being dark and all. Over and above this is the fact that Smeagol is a Hobbit, and therefore "very tough in the fibre;" in a similar way Frodo endured a fragment of Morgul-knofe for seventeen days which would have "swiftly overcome" many mighty warriors of Men.
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