The population in Middle Earth - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

TheGreatElvenWarrior · 09-30-2007, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Might

Interesting would be to know how many Hobbits lived in the Shire, they were also severely affected by calamities like the Fell Winter, but they little to do with wars, and we know some had quite many children.

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Thinlómien · 10-01-2007, 02:38 AM

One more thing to take into account is that maybe not every single city is not marked on the maps, just the big or important ones.

William Cloud Hicklin · 10-01-2007, 07:43 AM

It's not far off compared to the Middle Ages: just before the Black Death, the biggest city in Europe was Paris (perhaps 200,000) followed by London (half that). No other town in England exceeded the size of Bristol or Norwich, approx. 40,000.

goldfinger · 10-05-2007, 12:37 AM

We can really only take a mediocre sensus calculation of North-western Middle-earth during the Third Age. For the population spikes and drops more in the Third Age than any other. And we really don't have numbers we can compare the so called "very small population" to. It's very likely the number for NW Middle Earth at the time of the War of the Ring are 2-3 half million people, and the rest of Middle earth is 3-4 million Man, Elf, and Dwarf. As I said we just don't know.

Also to answer why so few Men in NW Middle Earth, are you all not forgetting the Great Plague that hit Gondor, Rhovanion, Eriador, and Minhiriath during the Third Age? It killed thousands and thousands of people.
Then there's the Days of Dearth during the Fell Winter. It was during this time the Corsairs and Dunlendings besieged Rohan. The winter killed thousands of people including Hobbits in Eriador during this time.

You guys should try looking at it from a different angle.

The Might · 10-05-2007, 06:17 AM

Maybe we did.

10-05-2007, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by goldfinger

You guys should try looking at it from a different angle.

The whole point of a thread such as this is to learn new things off each other. But even still, we are talking about a whole world, which is forever in fear of the darkness of Mordor & beyond. With this in mind, it is valid to question why the population is so low across Middle Earth for all races. A greater danger to the world requires a greater presence of people to defend their countries, by whatever means. Minas Tirith, for example, is the greatest city in Middle Earth (arguably), yet it is tiny!

10-01-2007, 02:38 AM	#2
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	One more thing to take into account is that maybe not every single city is not marked on the maps, just the big or important ones. __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

10-01-2007, 07:43 AM	#3
William Cloud Hicklin Loremaster of Annúminas Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,330	It's not far off compared to the Middle Ages: just before the Black Death, the biggest city in Europe was Paris (perhaps 200,000) followed by London (half that). No other town in England exceeded the size of Bristol or Norwich, approx. 40,000. __________________ The entire plot of The Lord of the Rings could be said to turn on what Sauron didn’t know, and when he didn’t know it.

10-05-2007, 06:17 AM	#5
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Maybe we did. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

10-05-2007, 12:37 AM	#4
goldfinger Haunting Spirit Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: KC, Missouri Posts: 60	We can really only take a mediocre sensus calculation of North-western Middle-earth during the Third Age. For the population spikes and drops more in the Third Age than any other. And we really don't have numbers we can compare the so called "very small population" to. It's very likely the number for NW Middle Earth at the time of the War of the Ring are 2-3 half million people, and the rest of Middle earth is 3-4 million Man, Elf, and Dwarf. As I said we just don't know. Also to answer why so few Men in NW Middle Earth, are you all not forgetting the Great Plague that hit Gondor, Rhovanion, Eriador, and Minhiriath during the Third Age? It killed thousands and thousands of people. Then there's the Days of Dearth during the Fell Winter. It was during this time the Corsairs and Dunlendings besieged Rohan. The winter killed thousands of people including Hobbits in Eriador during this time. You guys should try looking at it from a different angle.