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Shards of Narsil · 09-25-2007, 12:26 PM

Legate, its been two months and nothing on this. Maybe another small hint is in order?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 09-25-2007, 02:44 PM

Whoops... okay.

Just to repeat the question:
Who was the only one to realize that there's a real possibility to be caught and eaten; despite the person was not cooked, as some others were?

This means:

a) there was a certain situation, moment or place in the story.
b) at that certain situation, moment or place, whatever you wish, there were some, let's say, folks. One of them was the one I am asking about. The others were quite many. Some of them, if we trust the info we are given in the book, at the situation, moment or place that I am referring to, are cooked.
c) But our subject was the only one who realized that there is REALLY a possibility that someone will catch and eat them.

Italicised words are exactly in the book, as I quote them, at that situation, moment or place.
Though, there is a trick: you have to think deeply. When I say if we trust the info we are given in the book, it does not necessarily mean that the narrator is the one who is providing the information. It could be a subjective opinion of some character(s). However, if the narrator does not say his opinion on that, technically nothing prevents us from trusting it.

I know it's tricky, and I won't wonder if anyone had the idea to hit me with something hard after learning the answer. But that's for creative thinking.

And it is from the Lord of the Rings trilogy.

The Might · 09-26-2007, 07:14 AM

'Maggots!' jeered the Isengarders. 'You're cooked. The Whiteskins will catch you and eat you. They're coming!'

In case this is the part you reffer to, I already thought about it some time ago, but since you always said the only one, I thought you meant a single person.
Also I think this doesn't really fit. I mean the Isengarders are the ones who are not cooked, unlike the Northerners. But the Isengarders never realised that they could be caught and eaten, but that the Northerners would be.
So you see, it's very confusing...

Legate of Amon Lanc · 09-26-2007, 03:05 PM

The question was: Who was the only one to realize that there's a real possibility to be caught and eaten; despite the person was not cooked, as some others were?

That was only one person, and the first part is the important one.

The Might · 09-26-2007, 06:19 PM

Dunno, maybe Grishnakh?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 09-27-2007, 04:20 AM

Good, it was Grishnákh.

It was all about this moment:

Quote:

"Maggots!" jeered the Isengarders. "You're cooked. The Whiteskins will catch you and eat you. They're coming!"
A cry from Grishnákh showed that this was not mere jest.

So, taking all of it literally: we are told (by the Isengarders) that the mountain-maggots are cooked. Grishnákh is not one of them, so he is not cooked, of course. But he is the one who points out that the horsemen are indeed approaching, which would mean (again, if we trust the Isengarders) that they'll catch them and eat them.

It was a little bit of playing with logic, but here you go

Please, take the thread.

The Might · 09-27-2007, 06:58 AM

Still doesn't make sense to me.
It would mean in my opinion that someone who was not cooked realised that those who are cooked will be caught and eaten.

Maybe a bit more clarity next time...

Who set sail only after the sun set?

09-25-2007, 02:44 PM	#2
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Whoops... okay. Just to repeat the question: Who was the only one to realize that there's a real possibility to be caught and eaten; despite the person was not cooked, as some others were? This means: a) there was a certain situation, moment or place in the story. b) at that certain situation, moment or place, whatever you wish, there were some, let's say, folks. One of them was the one I am asking about. The others were quite many. Some of them, if we trust the info we are given in the book, at the situation, moment or place that I am referring to, are cooked. c) But our subject was the only one who realized that there is REALLY a possibility that someone will catch and eat them. Italicised words are exactly in the book, as I quote them, at that situation, moment or place. Though, there is a trick: you have to think deeply. When I say if we trust the info we are given in the book, it does not necessarily mean that the narrator is the one who is providing the information. It could be a subjective opinion of some character(s). However, if the narrator does not say his opinion on that, technically nothing prevents us from trusting it. I know it's tricky, and I won't wonder if anyone had the idea to hit me with something hard after learning the answer. But that's for creative thinking. And it is from the Lord of the Rings trilogy. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

09-26-2007, 07:14 AM	#3
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	'Maggots!' jeered the Isengarders. 'You're cooked. The Whiteskins will catch you and eat you. They're coming!' In case this is the part you reffer to, I already thought about it some time ago, but since you always said the only one, I thought you meant a single person. Also I think this doesn't really fit. I mean the Isengarders are the ones who are not cooked, unlike the Northerners. But the Isengarders never realised that they could be caught and eaten, but that the Northerners would be. So you see, it's very confusing... __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

09-26-2007, 03:05 PM	#4
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	The question was: Who was the only one to realize that there's a real possibility to be caught and eaten; despite the person was not cooked, as some others were? That was only one person, and the first part is the important one. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

09-26-2007, 06:19 PM	#5
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Dunno, maybe Grishnakh? __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

09-27-2007, 06:58 AM	#7
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Still doesn't make sense to me. It would mean in my opinion that someone who was not cooked realised that those who are cooked will be caught and eaten. Maybe a bit more clarity next time... Who set sail only after the sun set? __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

09-25-2007, 12:26 PM	#1
Shards of Narsil Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 33	Legate, its been two months and nothing on this. Maybe another small hint is in order?