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Old 09-17-2007, 08:01 PM   #1
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Quempel .. I respectfully ask you this --- are you a long distance runner? people who are not know nothing about it. Check that - they know less than nothing because what they think they know is wrong. There is only one way to train for long distance running - check that - ultra-long distance running. And that is to put in lots of miles.
Now as I've admitted, I no nothing of running; however, as this article seems to indicate "The present analysis shows it falls by some 4.5% over 10,000 m, T approximately 1600 s, indicating that in establishing current world records at 5000 and 10,000 m athletes did not rely solely on glycogen as the source of aerobic metabolism;" [emphasis mine], Gimli's plumpiness actually was an asset. And note that I'm quote mining.

Plus dwarves were known for their aerodynamic helmets.

Think of the journey that Gimli was on. Having feasted in Rivendell he walks a fortnight to Hollin, Land Where Something Finally Interesting Happens to the Nine Walkers. After that, he hoofs it up a mountain - in snow - then back down again. After some more walking he trudges through Moria, the Black Pit of Stairmastery. He carboloads in Lorien (and that's First Age carbs), then, like the others, husbands his strength for the three+ days of running.

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I simply want all of us to play by the same rules. The books and the movies cannot work unless we engage in willing suspension of disbelief. Lets just have it work both ways.
Much agreed, and thanks for putting up with my mindless posts and gentle taunting.

And did we mention that Frodo may have been doomed to the same split in personality as affected Gollum? At times in TTT and RotK he's nice then ready to kill Sam. It's Sam's love that keeps the split from occurring. PJ even has Frodo draw Sting to Sam's throat!
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Old 09-18-2007, 11:11 AM   #2
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And did we mention that Frodo may have been doomed to the same split in personality as affected Gollum? At times in TTT and RotK he's nice then ready to kill Sam. It's Sam's love that keeps the split from occurring. PJ even has Frodo draw Sting to Sam's throat!
Frodo does seem to oscillate between the normal hobbit and the socio/psychopathic one. This same event happens to Gollum where the creature is about 80-90% on the evil side with a few moments of old tired hobbit breaking through. Frodo always starts and ends the movies well enough, but in between he can really go crazy mad. With more than five hundred years of the same influence - and no tempering by Sam - Gollum is what Frodo (or, presumably any Ring user) would end up being.

Does Sauron wish, however rarely, for simpler times when he wasn't even Aulendil, let alone Annatar?
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