Tol-in-Gaurhoth XXXVI Game Thread

[Gil-Galad]

woah... where did me coming a wolf be? since this is the end i might as well reveal it and save my hide

i am the seer

CaptainofDespair is trying to pretend to kill me off, a good ending move as a wolf, too bad i dreamt of you last night as wolf

Holbytlass is innocent! Mithalwen is innocent!

so that leaves us to lynch Kath and Captain!

++CaptainofDespair

[CaptainofDespair]

Originally Posted by Gil-Galad

woah... where did me coming a wolf be? since this is the end i might as well reveal it and save my hide

i am the seer

CaptainofDespair is trying to pretend to kill me off, a good ending move as a wolf, too bad i dreamt of you last night as wolf

Holbytlass is innocent! Mithalwen is innocent!

so that leaves us to lynch Kath and Captain!

++CaptainofDespair

You lack the credentials, Gil-Galad. If Holby is innocent, how did she pick a wolf in Saucepan Man? She revealed a dreaming pattern, as well. You have nothing to show for but accusations.

And that you attempt to turn my own reasoning against shows you have nothing in your hand but the blood and gore of our fellow villagers whom you ruthlessly slaughtered. Your testimony can only be turned against you.

And how am I trying to pretend to kill you off? Today I'm going for Holby, as she is far more dangerous a wolf than you. You will simply be put down tomorrow after you kill me tonight. Essentially, I'm leaving Mithalwen and Kath to kill you off.

[Holbytlass]

I'm alive?!?

I dreamt of Captain last night and he is a wolf.

He's EVIL!!

++Captain of Despair

[Holbytlass]

Reading through today, now I see why I'm alive. Didn't need to look at the village bullletin because I fully expected to be dead (also had RL company).

Good one, CoD.

WHY as a wolf would I kill off Phantom, as he is a better debator than I am and was in my corner. I would NEVER have killed him last night!

[CaptainofDespair]

Originally Posted by Holbytlass

Reading through today, now I see why I'm alive. Didn't need to look at the village bullletin because I fully expected to be dead (also had RL company).

Good one, CoD.

WHY as a wolf would I kill off Phantom, as he is a better debator than I am and was in my corner. I would NEVER have killed him last night!

I assume the phantom is dead is because it would reflect poorly on me. He believed me to be a wolf yesterday. To kill him would make me seem guilty, and thus allow you to continue your false and very flawed Seer act, Holby. The phantom, it seems to me, is more useful to you dead than alive.

[Holbytlass]

If i were a wolf why would I come out playing I was the seer at that moment? I was under no threat of being lynched garnering only one vote in the beginning from Mithalwen. Even SpM wasn't under huge suspicions. The wolves had a huge head start after that three way lynching so why would I lie and say I was the seer and get rid of a fellow wolf, also outing myself?

I am the seer, I got lucky dreaming of a wolf and nailed him at a critical time for the village, not the wolves.

[CaptainofDespair]

Originally Posted by Holbytlass

If i were a wolf why would I come out playing I was the seer at that moment? I was under no threat of being lynched garnering only one vote in the beginning from Mithalwen. Even SpM wasn't under huge suspicions. The wolves had a huge head start after that three way lynching so why would I lie and say I was the seer and get rid of a fellow wolf, also outing myself?

I am the seer, I got lucky dreaming of a wolf and nailed him at a critical time for the village, not the wolves.

Because the village was in danger of falling to the wolves. And what better way than to win the game by getting the real Seer lynched. By using two wolves, instead of one true innocent, in your game, you allowed yourselves (it would seem to me) to be set up for a double lynch. Now, that was contingent on several factors, such as me revealing myself and not knowing Sauce to be a wolf. That is one theory of mine. It is somewhat flawed, but it did form the first ideas of how this might have gone down.

My other is that you would allow one of you to be lynched (you, specifically, Holby) when the Seer came out. Sauce might then look a tad more innocent than what he was, giving you two wolves with knowledge of the Seer. Without me, the village could not easily find the last wolf. That might then be enough to garner victory for you.

And wolves have outed each other before. WW is a game of attrition. If wolves must be outed to ensure victory, I do not doubt they'd do it if it'd secure a win.

[Holbytlass]

Originally Posted by CaptainofDespair

Because the village was in danger of falling to the wolves.

Therefore, as a wolf, I would have sat back and let it fall.

And wolves have outed each other before. WW is a game of attrition. If wolves must be outed to ensure victory, I do not doubt they'd do it if it'd secure a win.

True, very true, but again the timing of my so-called "charade" is way off. The wolves were ahead and in no danger at that moment-so I would not have pointed fingers at a fellow wolf needlessly.

[CaptainofDespair]

Originally Posted by Holbytlass

Therefore, as a wolf, I would have sat back and let it fall.

True, very true, but again the timing of my so-called "charade" is way off. The wolves were ahead and in no danger at that moment-so I would not have pointed fingers at a fellow wolf needlessly.

Why let it? There were 4 innocents (counting the Seer) and three wolves. It is not so hard to assume that as the numbers of innocents drop, the likelihood of a wolf being lynched increases significantly. I would surmise since Saucepan Man opted out of the quintuple lynch to win the game earlier, that you might have wished to go out in 'style' perhaps?

As for pointing fingers, Sauce was a tad in danger. Phantom was not sure of him, I think, and a few others had their suspicions. Also, had you not pulled your charade before I was able to view the forum, I might have come out to declare Sauce a wolf to save the village. But, perhaps, since I did not, you went ahead with a predetermined plan.

I have no real idea what was going through your minds. You are individuals after all, and so your reasoning is not so easy to see (it could very well have been illogical, masterminded by the insane Gil-Galad?). I can only guess at your motives and decision-making.

[CaptainofDespair]

Originally Posted by Holbytlass

I'm alive?!?

I dreamt of Captain last night and he is a wolf.

He's EVIL!!

++Captain of Despair

And so the last two wolves come into concert with one another. I find it interesting that Gil-Galad can only put out a real vote when his wolfen hide is in danger.

And you Holby, are alive because you are a wolf. Nice try attempting to lure me out with a fake Seer act, but you've failed. I will not be bested by you canine mongrels.

In any case, I planned on a spurt of activity from the wolves, if only enough to try to kill me. But the vote will come down to Kath and Mithalwen. They are the deciders on this matter. I have complete faith that they will do the right thing.