Arwen vs. Galadriel - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Knight of Gondor · 07-12-2007, 10:39 AM

I honestly do not hold up either actress from the movies as a model of beauty. (Now Miranda Otto on the other hand...)

In the book, it's hard to say, having not seen either of them. I am sure that many of the impressions (such as of Eomer and Gimli) come not so much from appearance as from presence.

Galadriel had issues of her own from earlier Ages, and is obviously made of sterner stuff than Arwen. As a Ringbearer, her responsibility and experience was so much greater than Arwen, who was but a maiden of Imladris. She bore no Ring, nor responsibilities of leadership.

Arwen's love and devotion for Aragorn is to be admired, although her actions after the death of King Ellesar are a bit selfish. (Abandoning her children to wander Lothlorien in grief.)

MatthewM · 07-12-2007, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Knight of Gondor

Arwen's love and devotion for Aragorn is to be admired, although her actions after the death of King Ellesar are a bit selfish. (Abandoning her children to wander Lothlorien in grief.)

Were they really, though? I do not see her actions as selfish.

That would be a good question for a new topic, indeed.

Knight of Gondor · 07-12-2007, 09:54 PM

I was certain it had been already discussed, under a title like "Arwen not a good mom?" but a forum and a google search did not turn up anything.

Boromir88 · 07-13-2007, 05:43 AM

Just a quick little correction if I may...I'm not as good at French as I used to be, it's been a while. Anyway:

'chanson de geste' actually translates to 'songs of heroic deeds.' In my post I said 'songs of war' but the French word for war is 'guerre.'

Just a little correction, I think this can still be applied to Eowyn, as she is more infatuated with Aragorn's impressive elven and dunedain friends...and she believes Aragorn can give the 'heroic/courageous' life she desires:

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"Shall I always be chosen?" she said bitterly. "Shall I always be left behind when the Riders depart, to mind the house while they win renown find food and beds when they return?"~The Passing of the Grey Company

Lalwendë · 07-13-2007, 07:22 AM

What would be the male equivalent of an Arwen Vs Galadriel face-off?

Faramir Vs Boromir?

Aragorn Vs Boromir?

Aragorn Vs Legolas?

Finduilas · 07-13-2007, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Lalwendë

What would be the male equivalent of an Arwen Vs Galadriel face-off?

Faramir Vs Boromir?

Aragorn Vs Boromir?

Aragorn Vs Legolas?

Aragorn Vs Legolas.

Boromir88 · 07-13-2007, 10:09 AM

None of them Lal...It would be

Denethor vs. Faramir

The hottest Steward vs. The hottest Steward's steamy son soaked in oil

07-12-2007, 10:39 AM	#1
Knight of Gondor Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 744	I honestly do not hold up either actress from the movies as a model of beauty. (Now Miranda Otto on the other hand...) In the book, it's hard to say, having not seen either of them. I am sure that many of the impressions (such as of Eomer and Gimli) come not so much from appearance as from presence. Galadriel had issues of her own from earlier Ages, and is obviously made of sterner stuff than Arwen. As a Ringbearer, her responsibility and experience was so much greater than Arwen, who was but a maiden of Imladris. She bore no Ring, nor responsibilities of leadership. Arwen's love and devotion for Aragorn is to be admired, although her actions after the death of King Ellesar are a bit selfish. (Abandoning her children to wander Lothlorien in grief.) __________________ Eagerly awaiting the REAL Return of the King - Jesus Christ! Revelation 19:11-16

07-12-2007, 09:54 PM	#3
Knight of Gondor Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 744	I was certain it had been already discussed, under a title like "Arwen not a good mom?" but a forum and a google search did not turn up anything. __________________ Eagerly awaiting the REAL Return of the King - Jesus Christ! Revelation 19:11-16

07-13-2007, 07:22 AM	#5
Lalwendë A Mere Boggart Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: under the bed Posts: 4,737	What would be the male equivalent of an Arwen Vs Galadriel face-off? Faramir Vs Boromir? Aragorn Vs Boromir? Aragorn Vs Legolas? __________________ Gordon's alive!

07-13-2007, 10:09 AM	#7
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	None of them Lal...It would be Denethor vs. Faramir The hottest Steward vs. The hottest Steward's steamy son soaked in oil __________________ Fenris Penguin