Admin thread for WWXXXV: Werewolves among the Wolf-men

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Well, it will be nice. But it may have several setbacks - someone might like to play sooner more than later. I think it was Rikae who said something like that... Personally, I'd also like more starting earlier, otherwise if the game took too long it could happen that the Mod may not be able to mod... (or better said, I'm not at home some time in July and I don't know if I'll have net access... maybe yes, but it's quite risky since I don't know for certain - I'll rely on Wi-fi). It depends also on the other players, so what do you others say?

[Macalaure]

For Rikae and me, one week later is not a problem. Even two weeks wouldn't be.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Hmm... and what about the others?

I thought about this somehow. In general, the options we have before us are these:

1. We start now (let's say on Wednesday evening) with probably 10 people. Nogrod won't be around from Friday till Monday, this means less people in these days (unless Nogrod is lynched or killed the first Day/Night, in that case there'll be no difference). I would certainly not like to see that, because especially with such a low number of players and given the nature of the game, absence of one person totally destroys the game. The other possibility will be a variation: to start now and then do a break on the Midsummer. Which sounds quite strange, but if you wanted to, it's also a possibility.

2. We start next week (let's say on Monday evening?) with as much people as we collect till then (though I'm not having any illusions, but who knows). For this speaks quite a lot of things, first the Midsummer won't go in the way and second, from Monday afternoon I'll be also completely free from all my other obligations. Setbacks? If we gather too much people and the game will be too long, the specter of my departure to a place with less internet access will be upon us.

3. We wait till even later. For this speaks: probably gathering quite a lot of people, including Aganzir, maybe even Volo or whoever else. But we will be totally at mercy of my internet access, which may end in complate disaster and wash-out of the Mod if I realize that I won't have any internet access. I don't know how it goes, but if such a terrible fate befell us, I might as well not be able to mod till some time in August (!) which is, of course, totally silly.

Some have already spoken on that matter. Now what do you others think?

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

For Rikae and me, one week later is not a problem. Even two weeks wouldn't be.

Speak for yourself!
No, actually, he's right. I suppose it isn't a problem to start next week.

[Lhunardawen]

I'm all for starting as soon as possible. I'm just squeezing a game in before the profs go full-on sadistic.

And truth be told, I'd prefer a smaller village. Large ones tend to get too tiring for the players. But Legate's right - 10 is too much!

[Durelin]

Originally Posted by Legate

Surely, but I think what Nogrod proposed is a nice idea. It's up to players how it will form: but if people post in-character, I think given the current numbers others will "catch the environment" and join them...

I don't have a problem with in-character-ness...hardly. But I do have a problem with 'if you're not taking the game 'seriously' enough, you should be lynched.'

I'm fine for starting whenever, though I will back out of the game if my playing style does not suit. Though really I can't tell you how I'll play. Depends on my mood.

[Aganzir]

I'm going to spend the next week (June 20-27) in Hungary, and won't have net access there. The first day I could play is June 28, but missing one day or so wouldn't be too bad I think. So if you start on 26th, 27th or even 25th, I think I could play (depends on whether the game starts with Day or Night phase).

I think you probably will have enough players before that, but I won't have a chance to come to the Downs anymore before I return, and that's why I'm saying this now. So if the game should start on 26th or 27th (or 25th with a Night phase), take this message as a sign up

[Brinniel]

10 is definitely not large enough. I would really prefer there to be 14 or 15 of us before starting.

I don't have any changes coming up in my schedule right now, so I can wait another week (or more) in order for us to get enough people. But if we do start next week...well, I know how my luck goes. No one better kill me on my birthday or I WILL haunt you!

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Okay, so in general, this far it looks like the best for everyone will be the variant 2 quite obviously. Therefore, I would propose the following: starting Night 1 on Monday 25th 8 PM GMT, while everyone except Aganzir will be present (unless some of those who did not speak yet will state otherwise). This will mean starting Day 1 on 26th 8 PM GMT. And while Night 2 will be going from (for us Europeans) evening 27th to evening 28th, Aganzir will have enough time to catch up with the game (briefly read the thread, eventually nightly activities if she had any) and on Day 2 she could join the game with no problems.

I'll post the start date at the beginning of the thread (and maybe also as a note on the game thread, where it will be more visible). This way it will be considered "official" from now on. But of course, if anyone has any objections against it, the discussion is still open. Otherwise, see you on the 25th.

And, please, send your short bios to me as soon as possible. At least a day before the start, please, so that I can make something of them. The game roles will be sent in about 12 hours before the start of Night 1.

And still, if anyone has any other questions concerning the game, feel free to post them on this thread.

The prologue to the game (as seen on the game thread) is thus far closed. The following narration will come right before Night 1.

Originally Posted by Volo

Not works! You'll have to emphasise that "roleplaying is compulsory"! Otherwise the in-characternessness won't last even till the end of Day1. (as shown in countles of games) Players tend to go for the easier solution, which is not write RP posts, if they don't absolutely have to.

Well, it will be indeed nice to have full-roleplay WW, and I think this one almost calls for it... but I'm not sure if all the people indeed wanted it. Looking at the table this far, maybe yes, from how I know most of you... The ones I don't know about much are xyzzy and Isabell who were, or so I thought - maybe wrong - more interested in WWing itself (but roleplaying does not exclude it!). It's fact that for example I know Shasta surprised me the first time we played together with very, very good in-character posts... maybe there are more hidden talents here...?

I don't want to come up with the despotic idea Volo brought just out of the blue, but if the voice of the people is more agreeing, I may bring in the "compulsory roleplaying" idea. But that's what I said even in the opening post - I know how distracting it may be. But it's true as well, that if you submerge to it, the game gets totally different quality and it surely is worth it. The question is, if you want to - or at least more "want to" than "want not".

[The Saucepan Man]

Sorry, Legate. I didn't sign up because I was away last weekend and will be otherwise engaged next weekend.

That said, even if you don't start 'til next week, I think that I need to take a short break. I am just not up to back-to-back Werewolfing these days, what with pesky distractions like family, work etc.

As for role-playing, despite being the one who introduced in-game roles when modding Werewolf the Second, compulsory and extended role-playing is not really my bag. It takes me long enough to write most WW posts without having to structure them as narratives as well. I am one of those who likes the in-character banter as a Day 1 distraction, but then prefers to get into the serious business of interminable and lengthy analysis ...

That's not to say it isn't worth doing if those who are playing are comofrtable with it, although you need to make clear that there a Werewolf game with role-playing is an entirely different thing to a Downs RPG and that they are governed by completely different rules and conventions, so as to avoid any risk of confusion.

[Nogrod]

I say we do go for the compulsory Role-play... it's fun (I was there in Glirdy's game and really enjoyed it).

But every slip from it should be understood and not judged too badly. There are situations where the going gets too rough (like the last minute votes etc.) to maintain a roleplaying thing on. So how about we say this is an RPG-style WW-game but that no one is penalised if they forget to stay on the RPG-mode every now and then?

And I do hope that writing from behind the role does not make an excuse to post only "laadidaa"-posts - the perfect cover for a wolf... One can actually play the game quite analytically being "in-character" as well. And that's what I hope to see.

And yes I think the idea of starting this game on Monday is a good decision. Let's get a few more players before that!

Originally Posted by Macalaure

For Rikae and me, one week later is not a problem. Even two weeks wouldn't be.

Originally Posted by Rikae

Speak for yourself!

Now isn't this cute?

[Lhunardawen]

Too bad you prioritise your distractions over Werewolf, SpM. I would have loved the opportunity of playing with you again.

Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man

It takes me long enough to write most WW posts without having to structure them as narratives as well.

Exactly the reason I would rather we have a small band of outlaws. If we want to stick to the roleplaying format as much as we can while remaining loyal to the Werewolf game aspect, having plenty of people to analyse won't really help in that. Personally 12 to 13 players should do it for me. (That's more or less how few the players were in the first few games, right?)

Oh, and if it matters, I'm perfectly fine with the starting date.