Treachery of Men Discussion/Planning Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Anguirel · 06-05-2007, 02:19 AM

Celuien, could you get Ulfast to pick up the letter? He'd likely be more pro-Borrim anyway, perhaps. That might be interesting.

Celuien · 06-05-2007, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Anguirel

Celuien, could you get Ulfast to pick up the letter? He'd likely be more pro-Borrim anyway, perhaps. That might be interesting.

I think Ulfast will be very interested in the letter...

Post to follow later.

Just so everyone knows, I'll be out of town this weekend. Next week, I have to move, so after Friday, I may not be able to come online very often until everything is sorted out.

Celuien · 06-08-2007, 07:11 PM

Sorry, everyone. I've had some issues come up this week that have kept me away from writing.

I'll get back to this as soon as I can (early next week).

Folwren · 06-10-2007, 01:51 PM

Save filled. And shortly, I'm off for another week at camp. So, I'll see you next Friday. Have fun!

-- Folwren

Nogrod · 06-16-2007, 02:15 AM

"Long time no sea!" as Kath's signature says...

I try to read myself up to date this weekend and if not earlier then after the Midsummer eve's party I will be joining again with full effort...

I have not forgotten this game. It's just that the RL keeps running over...

Celuien · 06-17-2007, 08:06 AM

Folwren - I've borrowed Ulwarth in my post to fix a continuity issue. Ulfast had to get to the letter, but was still talking to Dag when it was picked up, so I had Ulwarth find it. Please let me know if I need to change anything.

My internet issue still isn't resolved (see signature), but I hope it will be soon. Moving is such a hassle.

Anguirel · 06-29-2007, 06:16 AM

Have just finished my A Levels. That's all fine, I think.

However, I am still in deep trouble from all of you. There's no way I will be able to make this game work over this summer, or even be at all regularly on the Downs.

It's clealy a game that needs prodding and motivation. A high-maintenance game. I can't provide such maintenance. My mother's health has meant she's going to have to move to a flat in London. I thus lose my main Downery ( among the most trivial, I admit, of my various concerns on this point...) I will soon be starting, God willing, at Oxford...I have a hectic summer ahead, and a nomadic one...argh.

All this still sounds feeble. I'd love someone to leap into the breach and save this game, but somehow I don't see this as likely.

I feel pathetic for letting down Pio like this. But I really can't see what else I can do.

Please e-mail me at minocher@hotmail.co.uk if you want to stay in touch.

littlemanpoet · 07-08-2007, 08:08 PM

I've read the entirety of the rpg itself.

All of this story action in one day.

I don't think I can write Lachrandir quite the way Anguirel did. I can recount a few instances in which I told myself that I would have handled the Elf differently, due to the way I see such a character, a noble of the House of Fëanor, absolutely certain how far beneath himself, and even Tathren, all these bow-legged Men are, even Ulfang.

By the way, where is Ulfang as of this feast?

The way I see it, Lachrandir is going to want an answer to Caranthir's demand quite soon, and he's going to want it from whoever is really in charge, and he's going to want to know just who that is.

And the way I understand such an Elf, he's going to expect to be served rather than have to go looking for this or that lowly personage. I'm talking arrogance. Perhaps I can carry Ang's style through the evening, and have Lachrandir wake up in the morning and think how churlish and beneath his dignity he had acted on the previous day..... just a thought....

This is two months before the battle, right? How much time is the mustering and marching expected to take? In other words, how many days are Lachrandir and Tathren expected to 'suffer' being amongst the Ulfings?

I admit that I have only read the first couple of pages of the planning thread, so If there's a discussion/planning post that already covers this, please let me know.

And I've seen that Tora's father's name has been "Torguar" for the last couple of pages, but started out as "Birna". "Torguar" seems more fitting with the "Tor" prefix.

One other thing. I've noticed a bunch of "saved" posts with nothing substantial in them littered throughout the rpg.

Oh, I've also prepared a chart to help me keep track of all the characters. I'll link it as soon as I figure out how, because it's too big to attach to this post.

Folwren · 07-08-2007, 08:38 PM

Elempi, impressive work - reading the entire thing. Glad you got through it so admirably quick.

As for Lachrandir's character - I'm inclined to say, work him however you think best, so long as it matches somewhat to his character description. However, I may be wrong. I believe, though, that when you take a character like this from another player (sad as that is), he's now yours. You can verify it with Pio, though, if you really want to.

--

Captain of Despair, where is Brodda at the moment? Is he going to find Jord, as Uldor wished him to? Let me know, please.

--

Everyone, I'll be here tomorrow, but Tuesday, early morning, I'm headed for camp and will not be back until Friday afternoon.

-- Folwren

Child of the 7th Age · 07-08-2007, 09:13 PM

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One other thing. I've noticed a bunch of "saved" posts with nothing substantial in them littered throughout the rpg.

I am fairly certain this is a system glitch that occurred with the upgrade to the new system. I've noticed this same problem in other areas of the rpg forums: old deletions have been resurrected and come to life. I will try and go through and delete these again.

piosenniel · 07-08-2007, 09:23 PM

Child

Did you delete them? Because I see no posts to be deleted and no other 'soft-deleted' post other than lmp's last one.

~*~ Pio

Child of the 7th Age · 07-08-2007, 09:26 PM

Pio,

I was just going to ask you the same thing. I just finished eyeballing the five pages of the game and can only see Littlemanpoet's soft deletion at the end.

BTW, have you figured out how to do a hard deletion yet?

littlemanpoet · 07-09-2007, 09:37 AM

It must have been an upgrade glitch; they're all gone now.

Nogrod · 07-09-2007, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

It must have been an upgrade glitch; they're all gone now.

I managed to delete one of my own from another thread as it had suddenly appeared - and I could swear I had deleted it some two months ago...

But happily no problem, it seems?

I try to reach up with this one as well, but for the time being there seems not to be a lot to write for a Borrim follower of Khandr who's not allowed anyplace of importance and who has kind of written quite a many posts about wandering around the town by himself already... not to say that the other Borrim's haven't been seen for a long time to go on socialising with them an option by just posting... This is a realistic RPG where people whose characters are outsiders so easily feel themselves outsiders as well...

But if there is someone who would be active this week or the next (RL) and whose character has nothing to do in particular & would like to meet a Borrim retainer, then feel free to PM me and I'd come forwards with Fastarr eagerly...

Folwren · 07-09-2007, 02:04 PM

Excellent, Nogrod. I'm so happy you're ready and willing to continue playing. I understand the difficulty, though... Hopefully, we'll be able to finish the banquet night sometime in the near future. Unfortunately for you and others who's characters are not at the feast, there are a few little plans still to be played out.

Don't worry. Soon, we will have the hunt moving forward and you'll be able to take part in that.

-- Folwren

Nogrod · 07-09-2007, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Foley

Hopefully, we'll be able to finish the banquet night sometime in the near future. Unfortunately for you and others who's characters are not at the feast, there are a few little plans still to be played out.

I have already schemes going on with Lalaith... thank's to her observations! There is something we built up on between Fastarr and Embla in the beginning of the game and we might try to carry that thing forwards now...

But thanks for your thoughts... the structure of this game is somewhat more challenging to the average writer, but we'll get along as you others dragged on while the borrim were having their "feast" with the elves...

Durelin · 07-13-2007, 12:57 PM

I'm back and mostly alive so I'll get Thuringwethil somewhere very soon. Have to read up a bit.... I'll also bug CoD about Brodda. I know he's been keeping up with what's going on at least mostly, but I guess he's missed that he's somehow missed that he's needed...I kinda need to know what Brodda's up to too, hehe.

Belated, but - Thanks, Lalaith, and no worries!

Folwren · 09-10-2007, 07:59 AM

Dear friends,

About two months ago, right when Anguirel left our midsts, I said some rather hard things that shouldn’t have been said. I mistook his offer of a kiss and responded accordingly to what I thought he meant. I over-reacted, and I am sincerely sorry for it.

But Anguirel was not the only person I wronged. I also insulted Mithalwen, still being under my incorrect illusion of what was meant by the ‘kiss kiss’, and for that I am very sorry.

As Mith said thus -

"Really Folwren, shame on you. For someone who generally seems to try to see the best in people you have managed to put the most unpleasant spin on something quite sweet and innocent."

I quite agree and am (far too late as it may be) ashamed and sincerely sorry for my misunderstanding and incorrect reaction.

If I also insulted or turned any one else away, I wanted to apologize to them, too. Please believe me when I say I had no intention whatsoever to offend or be rude.

-- Folwren

06-05-2007, 02:19 AM	#1
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	Celuien, could you get Ulfast to pick up the letter? He'd likely be more pro-Borrim anyway, perhaps. That might be interesting. __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

06-08-2007, 07:11 PM	#3
Celuien Riveting Ribbiter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Assigned to Mordor Posts: 1,767	Sorry, everyone. I've had some issues come up this week that have kept me away from writing. I'll get back to this as soon as I can (early next week). __________________ People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect. But actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey... stuff.

06-10-2007, 01:51 PM	#4
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	Save filled. And shortly, I'm off for another week at camp. So, I'll see you next Friday. Have fun! -- Folwren __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

06-16-2007, 02:15 AM	#5
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	"Long time no sea!" as Kath's signature says... I try to read myself up to date this weekend and if not earlier then after the Midsummer eve's party I will be joining again with full effort... I have not forgotten this game. It's just that the RL keeps running over... __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

06-17-2007, 08:06 AM	#6
Celuien Riveting Ribbiter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Assigned to Mordor Posts: 1,767	Folwren - I've borrowed Ulwarth in my post to fix a continuity issue. Ulfast had to get to the letter, but was still talking to Dag when it was picked up, so I had Ulwarth find it. Please let me know if I need to change anything. My internet issue still isn't resolved (see signature), but I hope it will be soon. Moving is such a hassle. __________________ People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect. But actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey... stuff.

06-29-2007, 06:16 AM	#7
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	Bad news Have just finished my A Levels. That's all fine, I think. However, I am still in deep trouble from all of you. There's no way I will be able to make this game work over this summer, or even be at all regularly on the Downs. It's clealy a game that needs prodding and motivation. A high-maintenance game. I can't provide such maintenance. My mother's health has meant she's going to have to move to a flat in London. I thus lose my main Downery ( among the most trivial, I admit, of my various concerns on this point...) I will soon be starting, God willing, at Oxford...I have a hectic summer ahead, and a nomadic one...argh. All this still sounds feeble. I'd love someone to leap into the breach and save this game, but somehow I don't see this as likely. I feel pathetic for letting down Pio like this. But I really can't see what else I can do. Please e-mail me at minocher@hotmail.co.uk if you want to stay in touch. __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

07-08-2007, 08:08 PM	#8
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	I've read the entirety of the rpg itself. All of this story action in one day. I don't think I can write Lachrandir quite the way Anguirel did. I can recount a few instances in which I told myself that I would have handled the Elf differently, due to the way I see such a character, a noble of the House of Fëanor, absolutely certain how far beneath himself, and even Tathren, all these bow-legged Men are, even Ulfang. By the way, where is Ulfang as of this feast? The way I see it, Lachrandir is going to want an answer to Caranthir's demand quite soon, and he's going to want it from whoever is really in charge, and he's going to want to know just who that is. And the way I understand such an Elf, he's going to expect to be served rather than have to go looking for this or that lowly personage. I'm talking arrogance. Perhaps I can carry Ang's style through the evening, and have Lachrandir wake up in the morning and think how churlish and beneath his dignity he had acted on the previous day..... just a thought.... This is two months before the battle, right? How much time is the mustering and marching expected to take? In other words, how many days are Lachrandir and Tathren expected to 'suffer' being amongst the Ulfings? I admit that I have only read the first couple of pages of the planning thread, so If there's a discussion/planning post that already covers this, please let me know. And I've seen that Tora's father's name has been "Torguar" for the last couple of pages, but started out as "Birna". "Torguar" seems more fitting with the "Tor" prefix. One other thing. I've noticed a bunch of "saved" posts with nothing substantial in them littered throughout the rpg. Oh, I've also prepared a chart to help me keep track of all the characters. I'll link it as soon as I figure out how, because it's too big to attach to this post. Last edited by littlemanpoet; 07-08-2007 at 08:36 PM.

07-08-2007, 08:38 PM	#9
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	Elempi, impressive work - reading the entire thing. Glad you got through it so admirably quick. As for Lachrandir's character - I'm inclined to say, work him however you think best, so long as it matches somewhat to his character description. However, I may be wrong. I believe, though, that when you take a character like this from another player (sad as that is), he's now yours. You can verify it with Pio, though, if you really want to. -- Captain of Despair, where is Brodda at the moment? Is he going to find Jord, as Uldor wished him to? Let me know, please. -- Everyone, I'll be here tomorrow, but Tuesday, early morning, I'm headed for camp and will not be back until Friday afternoon. -- Folwren

07-08-2007, 09:23 PM	#11
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Child Did you delete them? Because I see no posts to be deleted and no other 'soft-deleted' post other than lmp's last one. ~*~ Pio __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

07-08-2007, 09:26 PM	#12
Child of the 7th Age Spirit of the Lonely Star Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 5,133	Pio, I was just going to ask you the same thing. I just finished eyeballing the five pages of the game and can only see Littlemanpoet's soft deletion at the end. BTW, have you figured out how to do a hard deletion yet? __________________ Multitasking women are never too busy to vote.

07-09-2007, 09:37 AM	#13
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	It must have been an upgrade glitch; they're all gone now.

07-09-2007, 02:04 PM	#15
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	Excellent, Nogrod. I'm so happy you're ready and willing to continue playing. I understand the difficulty, though... Hopefully, we'll be able to finish the banquet night sometime in the near future. Unfortunately for you and others who's characters are not at the feast, there are a few little plans still to be played out. Don't worry. Soon, we will have the hunt moving forward and you'll be able to take part in that. -- Folwren __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

07-13-2007, 12:57 PM	#17
Durelin Estelo dagnir, Melo ring Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,063	I'm back and mostly alive so I'll get Thuringwethil somewhere very soon. Have to read up a bit.... I'll also bug CoD about Brodda. I know he's been keeping up with what's going on at least mostly, but I guess he's missed that he's somehow missed that he's needed...I kinda need to know what Brodda's up to too, hehe. Belated, but - Thanks, Lalaith, and no worries!

09-10-2007, 07:59 AM	#18
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	Dear friends, About two months ago, right when Anguirel left our midsts, I said some rather hard things that shouldn’t have been said. I mistook his offer of a kiss and responded accordingly to what I thought he meant. I over-reacted, and I am sincerely sorry for it. But Anguirel was not the only person I wronged. I also insulted Mithalwen, still being under my incorrect illusion of what was meant by the ‘kiss kiss’, and for that I am very sorry. As Mith said thus - "Really Folwren, shame on you. For someone who generally seems to try to see the best in people you have managed to put the most unpleasant spin on something quite sweet and innocent." I quite agree and am (far too late as it may be) ashamed and sincerely sorry for my misunderstanding and incorrect reaction. If I also insulted or turned any one else away, I wanted to apologize to them, too. Please believe me when I say I had no intention whatsoever to offend or be rude. -- Folwren __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis