Werewolf Four and Thirty: Bloodbath in the Anduin Vale - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Mithalwen · 06-03-2007, 11:40 AM

Well I have read but it isn't really helping yet. Durelin's thief role intrigues me and there may be some aspect of it that explains her attention seeking behaviour yesterday but I guess we will have to wait for the end to find out the full details.

Nevertheless her attack on Kath is interesting. Unlikely perhaps to be based on knowledge since we started with a day phase. And thief is not a particularly glorious title for a "good" (though neither is assassin). So I am probably being thick in not quite seeing Durelin's attack on Kath as an absolute indication to
lynch Kath. Either Durelin received some priveleged information at the start of the game or it was random or pure mischief making. But the fact
of her death would seem to put her on the side of the angels...

Volo · 06-03-2007, 11:46 AM

*slap* Big mistake! I was talking nonsense there as Kath can't be the Bear and spied on by Durelin. She would have to be a Wolf, and that feels less probable. :/

There are so many flying over my radar that I feel very useless now.

Boromir88 · 06-03-2007, 11:52 AM

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I also have to disagree vehemently on Boro and Menel's arguing. One of my first thoughts on learning of Menel's wolvishness was that that little exchange had wolf-on-wolf argument written all over it. I will have to go back and see if I can be more specific- but it felt rather planned.~Rikae

Oh Rikae, I felt so good about you yesterday, but saying things like that could just end up getting you killed. I have a feeling it's going to end up happening like this...who ever (of us two) dies first the village will quickly know the purpose of the other (innocent? or evil?) I'm of course hoping you end up dead before me, therefor everyone will know what side I'm on.

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It sounds like you're saying the one who killed Menel suspected him loudly yesterDay.~Aganzir

Pah, I would never be that blunt!

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unless what we call assassin is a Hunter-like role who is sure s/he knows a wolf

That would be quite a role indeed! I wish I had one, like that, so interesting and an outright joy to mess around with.

Nogrod · 06-03-2007, 12:22 PM

Volo, I would greatly appreciate if you could enlighten me on two things.

Firstly. Why do you think Kath can't be a bear if there is an assassin around / Kath can't be a bear spied on by Dury and to top that Kath is less probably a wolf *than a bear*? I just can't follow your reasoning here...

To me Kath looks suspicious because she feels like one who is not playing straight but has some evil intentions. It's all the same to me whether she's a wolf or a bear or a godzilla. If she's a baddie of a sort or another and we lynch her for that it's fine to me. And I can't see a reason to exclude one kind of evil from her yet.

Secondly. When do you use your reverse-way and when not or do you use it all the time? It's a bit hard to get a grip on your posts when one can't be sure what is it that you mean when you say you suspect someone or not.

EDIT: added the *-part* to underline what I meant

Volo · 06-03-2007, 12:34 PM

Good to see you back, Nogrod.

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

Secondly. When do you use your reverse-way and when not or do you use it all the time? It's a bit hard to get a grip on your posts when one can't be sure what is it that you mean when you say you suspect someone or not.

I'm thinking on dropping the whole thing. When I said "feel" I didn't really suspect. When I said "suspect" I really suspected. So, I suspect you and Kath. Though not enough to dare vote for either, yet. Mostly of all, because I tend to be wrong, and because I haven't really formed opinions on other players.

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Firstly. Why do you think Kath can't be a bear if there is an assassin around / Kath can't be a bear spied on by Dury and to top that Kath is less probably a wolf? I just can't follow your reasoning here...

It all contradicts my views of the preveous Night if Kath was spied on by Durelin and is the Bear. I can't be sure (though I pretty much am), but I think that Durelin was killed for spying the Wolves. (SPM, having a good laugh?)
Otherwise Kath can be whatever evil you want to name. She just feels more Bear than Wolf, and I'm not using "feel" in the annoying way.

I do find Lommy genuine.

EDIT: Xd with Rikae

Nogrod · 06-03-2007, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Volo

It all contradicts my views of the preveous Night if Kath was spied on by Durelin and is the Bear. I can't be sure (though I pretty much am), but I think that Durelin was killed for spying the Wolves.

Oh, forgive me. I forgot the them-thing. Yeah. If Dury died because of "thieving" Kath (whatever it is) then Kath is a part of a more than one person baddie-league.

But if Kath is a cobbler then there needs to be some other reason for Dury's death...

Funny. I actually started to follow Kath more seriously only toDay because of the events during the Night to which our only clue (concerning Dury) she was. And this closer reading has led me to think she's a cobbler which kind of destroys any possibility of Kath being related to Dury's death in the first place.

Anyway. This far I think lynching Kath would be a good thing. She's not playing to us delegates but to the evil purposes. At least she's my strongest candidate now.

Sorry about returning to the Kath-issue but I only now noticed Volo's explanation...

Now to other things.

06-03-2007, 11:40 AM	#1
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Well I have read but it isn't really helping yet. Durelin's thief role intrigues me and there may be some aspect of it that explains her attention seeking behaviour yesterday but I guess we will have to wait for the end to find out the full details. Nevertheless her attack on Kath is interesting. Unlikely perhaps to be based on knowledge since we started with a day phase. And thief is not a particularly glorious title for a "good" (though neither is assassin). So I am probably being thick in not quite seeing Durelin's attack on Kath as an absolute indication to lynch Kath. Either Durelin received some priveleged information at the start of the game or it was random or pure mischief making. But the fact of her death would seem to put her on the side of the angels... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-03-2007, 11:46 AM	#2
Volo Silver in My Silent Heart Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the great beauty Posts: 1,611	slap Big mistake! I was talking nonsense there as Kath can't be the Bear and spied on by Durelin. She would have to be a Wolf, and that feels less probable. :/ There are so many flying over my radar that I feel very useless now. __________________ Fenris Wolf The EVEN NEWER Barrow-Downs Photo Page

06-03-2007, 12:22 PM	#4
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Volo, I would greatly appreciate if you could enlighten me on two things. Firstly. Why do you think Kath can't be a bear if there is an assassin around / Kath can't be a bear spied on by Dury and to top that Kath is less probably a wolf than a bear? I just can't follow your reasoning here... To me Kath looks suspicious because she feels like one who is not playing straight but has some evil intentions. It's all the same to me whether she's a wolf or a bear or a godzilla. If she's a baddie of a sort or another and we lynch her for that it's fine to me. And I can't see a reason to exclude one kind of evil from her yet. Secondly. When do you use your reverse-way and when not or do you use it all the time? It's a bit hard to get a grip on your posts when one can't be sure what is it that you mean when you say you suspect someone or not. EDIT: added the -part to underline what I meant __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet... Last edited by Nogrod; 06-03-2007 at 12:30 PM.