WW XXXIII - Other Minds and Hands

[Diamond18]

Durelin? You mean Diamond, don't you?

Eh?

You mean because of the signature? I wouldn't call that weak reasoning so much as no reasoning at all, which is pretty much what happens when you have to vote hours and hours early on Day 1. So no, I wasn't expecting you to have to come up with a defense....

I do find it a little funny though that you had to mention that... I mean, I thought it seemed pretty clear that I did not seriously suspect you. A little paranoia leaking through, maybe? Hm.

[Kath]

(Don't have much to say right now as I just got back from the LotR musical (*squeals*) and I'm exhausted and would like to get the nights events up on LJ before I forget them.)

Mith killed during the Night. Why? There has been mention of possible Seer hints but that was role play. It would have been a good cover but Gifted-Mith is far more subtle until she's focused on. Plus, there were a couple of people who questioned the way she was acting and she barely responded, which again is an anti Gifted-Mith thing.

That latter thing, Mac, is what made me think Mith was innocent so no, I didn't have any suspicions in her direction yesterDay.

So perhaps we have newbie wolves? People who haven't played with Mith often enough to know her style? Unfortunately it could just be that they thought she was an easy kill. Hopefully the next kill will help us decide which it is.

I've only flicked through the posts so far, I'll read up properly tomorrow.

[The Saucepan Man]

Well, Legate remains my prime suspect.

Of the others, I have some concerns about Kath, Mac, Brinniel, Aganzir and Rune.

Kath, Mac and Brinniel for their votes yesterDay, as I explained earlier. But it’s not sufficient evidence to persuade me to vote for them, and I have seen little else in their contributions to cause me undue alarm.

Aganzir looks to me to be committing the traditionally suspicious werewolfing sin of posting relatively frequently without saying much concerning her own thoughts, particularly toDay. She is distinctly non-committal. But it’s still early in the game and that may just be her way.

Rune is an interesting case. As I think Kath noted yesterDay, he too has been around a fair bit without saying a lot. And his contributions seem to follow a distinct pattern. He comments on someone, provokes a slight overeaction (in Mac yesterDay and Gil toDay), and then overreacts rather defensively himself. I’m not sure that it’s enough just yet to condemn him as a Wolf, but he is probably my second suspect after Legate.

But now I must vote and, since he remains the most suspicious to my eyes at the moment, I shall vote for:

++Legate of Amon Lanc

I shall try to make it back before the deadline, but I am not hopeful.

[Boromir88]

Do what you must Volo et all who hath accuseth me. This time I can't be my normal self. This is the first time I've had the chance to get on today. And just like Day 1, I'm going to get some more rest (as I have to get ready for work again in 5 hours, and when I come back I'm going to vote. This is how it is going to be for me most of the time. So, I'm going to read through all this stuff today, post my thoughts...get a few hours of sleep, come back and vote.

As for why I voted for myself...it was in-character stuff, but also to try and get reactions (which didn't happen at all). At that time there was about 20 posts, something around that number? Nothing at all stuck out to me, I wanted to try and get some discussion going as I had to vote within a few hours and had absolutely no clue. I didn't get what I wanted (as there were only a few posts after I voted for myself), so changed my vote for a mostly random reason, but Ang was the most suspicious one to me. Again, he seemed far to chirpy and jolly. His posts reminded me of Fea. And Fea scares the crap out of me when she plays.

Now to get caught up...

[Boromir88]

Well, Kath and Brinniel have given off this innocent vibe to me. Their tone comes off as innocent and sweet. If one of them is a wolf, congrats to you for completely fooling me.

I'm willing to trust Volo's reveal, for the time being.

Now, Legate, Sauce, and Ang are an interesting and talky bunch. I think one is a wolf. And of those 3 Ang looks the most wolvish and Sauce looks the most innocent.

Sauce is very adamant in going after Legate. That's how he always is as an ordinary innocent. He has his suspects and he goes after them with everything he has...very lawyerish of him .

Legate made a strange comment at the end of voting yesterday that didn't sit right with me:

Hey, we HAVE TO AVOID DOUBLE-LYNCH AT ALL COSTS!!!

And in the same post:

PLEASE CHECK YOU DON'T CROSS-VOTE WITH ANYONE, BECAUSE THEN WE CAN HAVE DOUBLE-LYNCH VERY NICELY.

I mean we all know that a double-lynch only helps the wolves, and it's good to be reminded 'hey lets avoid a double-lynch, this might happen if we mess up.' But this just seems too forced and and quite frankly fake. It's like Legate is trying to look innocent by reminding us all we don't want a double-lynch (duh ), but the manner he does it (the all caps and twice in the same post) looks fake and like he's trying too hard to look innocent.

Ang, I really can't get a hold on, and I know as long as we are both around that isn't going to change. I have a funny feeling about him...as I really always do actually. Ang is one of the toughest players, that I know I will never figure out because he is the exact same as an innocent or a wolf. Which means I get the same 'bad feelings' about him all the time.

[Anguirel]

Boro is now on his usual form, which is good, though I don't think he was ever that much off it (despite Gil-Galad's damning verdict...)

There seems to be a lot of viciousness in this game. I know that sounds deeply feeble, but really, rarely have I encountered a village where the vibes are so dark.

Much of the tension permeates from Saruman. Sauce observed he seemed to know too much about Sixth, but this need not necessarily point to guilt. I have a tendency myself to be pessimistic whenever most lynchs, but especially compromise-lynchs like that one, are enacted. So far as that goes, I don't suspect Saruman particularly. But his forceful voice and obsessive opinions is creating almost as much division as an extra werewolf. It is also true that I could readily see him doing in my wife, who he had various spats with but also fought shy of confronting directly (unlike his approach vis-a-vis me).

So, yes...could still go either way on that one.

Lommy is keeping her nose very clean, but that could be a time issue.

A few candidates are attracting most of the attention today...we should really try casting the net wider. Say, Durelin, for instance. I haven't thought about her once yet, and that's not a good sign...

A lot of you have been sniffing around Mac, but no votes materialised. Is he suspicious, or the victim of a tentative and indecisive wolf intrigue, I wonder? I'll look at his posting when I next have the time.

[Brinniel]

Alright, I'm not going to stay up terribly late trying to analyze everyone right now. I think I'd rather go to bed early (ha, like 3am is early) and get up early when this thread is more active. Curse these time zones, they can be such a nuisance at times...

Back to the subject, I will take a closer look at others in the morning, but for now, I would like to take a look at yesterDay's prime suspects (other than Sixth, of course): Anguirel and Legate

So far toDay, my suspicions of Legate have not changed:

One thing I've noticed is that he's been a bit jumpy and overly-defensive towards those who have accused him. Partly I get this feeling from words, but mostly from tone. Of course, tone can be read quite differently when it's in writing, so perhaps I'm just reading the signals wrong and he is not actually as upset as he seems to be, but nevertheless, it's the feeling I have.

Though, Boromir has brought one thing to attention that does raise some alarms for me:

Originally Posted by Boromir

Legate made a strange comment at the end of voting yesterday that didn't sit right with me:

And in the same post:

I mean we all know that a double-lynch only helps the wolves, and it's good to be reminded 'hey lets avoid a double-lynch, this might happen if we mess up.' But this just seems too forced and and quite frankly fake. It's like Legate is trying to look innocent by reminding us all we don't want a double-lynch (duh ), but the manner he does it (the all caps and twice in the same post) looks fake and like he's trying too hard to look innocent.

Now, the mentioning of the double-lynch itself doesn't alarm me, I mean it is something I admit I said myself, although it was in a bit of a different manner. But then Legate goes about accusing me of being wolfish for saying something he said himself first. I'm not sure what exactly to think on this, but it certainly makes me uneasy...

On Anguirel:

I honestly have to say I'm confused on what to think of him. I don't see anything strange about his vote for Sixth. He did it to save himself from a lynch, as he explains in post #99, which is something anyone would do, wolf or innocent. The main thing that catches my attention is that he gained so much suspicion yesterDay, and perhaps in the morning I will better examine this. I've never played with Ang until now, so I'm not terribly aware of his style, but I've heard that he can be quite dangerous as a wolf, so while he doesn't raise any huge alarms for me yet, indeed I will be careful not to disregard him.

If there is a wolf among these two players, I do think it would be only one. Ang and Legate have been at each other since Day 1, which is too risky to be wolf-on-wolf, in my opinion.

Okay, it's getting late. I'm off to bed now. I'll try to be back around three hours before the deadline.