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Old 05-15-2007, 11:15 AM   #1
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Apologies if I am misunderstanding you, Volo, but you appear to be making no sense. Since when can a Seer's dreams be wrong?

As for your claimed role, I thought that you were joking, but then your edit would suggest that you are serious. But, if you are unkillable and unlynchable, what possible downside might there be to you revealing your role anyway? Unless, you are either on the side of the Wolves or on neither the side of the Wolves nor the villagers, and merely out for yourself.
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Old 05-15-2007, 11:21 AM   #2
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Apologies if I am misunderstanding you, Volo, but you appear to be making no sense. Since when can a Seer's dreams be wrong?
I am afraid I haven't followed all the games I haven't played - but isn't htere a false seer? but I don't really understand what Volo says....
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Old 05-15-2007, 11:22 AM   #3
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I mean a possible role of False seer not necessarily here and now...
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Old 05-15-2007, 11:28 AM   #4
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Oh volo - I am definietely not in the market of lynching a flitter today - just pointing out that there are levels of IC ... and as time goes on it may be that we have to weigh RL and habit against the possibility / statistical probablility that if we have 4 or 5 people who post just enough to stay in the game, that a wolf may be in their number - the devil will be in deciding which.... and of course it will be necessary in this game for a low posting wolf to make the effort to at least register their presence since the mod not the players will dispose of them.
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Old 05-15-2007, 11:37 AM   #5
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Legate I might well vote for..... btu I worry that suspecting him is a not entirely unjustified habit.... but as Brinniel say it might be throw away ... and indeed wrong....

So little time, so much confusion, such a great fear that it is an innocents tear each other apart day..... shall we try to avoid a double lynch at least? I can only see that that would help the wolves ...

And volo - if you do have som knowledge can you be less oblique?

Or is this some wolftrick?

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Old 05-15-2007, 11:43 AM   #6
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OK I will change if necessary but first vote of instinct even if second for necessity:

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Old 05-15-2007, 11:45 AM   #7
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Well although Volo's role could have been a trick, I don't think he'd think of it himself. Also remember the narration (the book and the lines in it). The shame is, that it was revealed - surely more fun could've been brought with it. Any downside of revealing, Volo? But let's keep this off - with deadline about 2 hours earlier than I am used to, I now realized in shock after SpM's and Mith's post that it's upon us! Hey, we HAVE TO AVOID DOUBLE-LYNCH AT ALL COSTS!!! While I know with the remaining votes my vote might lead to it, I'm still keeping one vote for retraction. Let's hope no one else does it!

PLEASE CHECK YOU DON'T CROSS-VOTE WITH ANYONE, BECAUSE THEN WE CAN HAVE DOUBLE-LYNCH VERY NICELY.

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Old 05-15-2007, 11:46 AM   #8
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Ad Six: I believe him innocent, because he didn't do anything that could be wolfish apart of that he started bandwaggon for Ang.
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Old 05-15-2007, 11:46 AM   #9
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OK Volo, I'll buy your explanation, for now at least. Although, with a greater likelihood of an innocent being lynched than a Wolf on Day 1, it might have been better for you not to have revealed your role and run the risk of being non-lynched. After all, the main advantage of your role would appear to be that the Wolves might have wasted a kill on you.
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Old 05-15-2007, 11:47 AM   #10
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I would rather go for Legate than for Sixth or Ang, though voting for Legate at this point would indeed be throw away. Sixth is more suspicious than Ang, of whom I can't say anything.

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I'll change to Sixth if necessary.

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Old 05-15-2007, 11:49 AM   #11
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I suspect those two more than Legate, but seeing that Sixth will be lynched more surely than Ang I'll vote him.
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Old 05-15-2007, 11:50 AM   #12
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And I would change to Legate if necessary. We all just have to decide on one.
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Old 05-15-2007, 11:50 AM   #13
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I declare myself willing to vote for Legate, if necessary, given that he looks far more suspicious to me than Ang.
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Old 05-15-2007, 11:52 AM   #14
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Okay, now people are starting to vote Legate...

What to do...

Well, since this won't be a throw-away vote anymore, I will after all vote:

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Hopefully, this won't turn into a double lynch toDay...

EDIT: X-ed with Volo on...
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Old 05-15-2007, 11:24 AM   #15
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Apologies if I am misunderstanding you, Volo, but you appear to be making no sense. Since when can a Seer's dreams be wrong?
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As for your claimed role, I thought that you were joking, but then your edit would suggest that you are serious. But, if you are unkillable and unlynchable, what possible downside might there be to you revealing your role anyway? Unless, you are either on the side of the Wolves or on neither the side of the Wolves nor the villagers, and merely out for yourself.
If I'm "lynched" then my role is revealed anyway, so no point wasting a lynch on me. So I am on the Innocent side. Though if you really don't trust me, you might as well see for yourself by voting me.

I'm just feeling like being a known Innocent wouldn't be too bad. Not too optimistic after being lynched on Day1 for so many times, only once guilty. (But I'm not emphasising this.)

EDIT: Xd with everything since Legate.

I'll explain:

My role is called the Reincarnation of Tolkien. And because Tolkien is immortal, I can't be killed. I am on the side of the Innocents. My goal is to lynch the Wolves. If I am to be lynched or killed at Night, my role will be revealed, but I won't die.


Still half an hour. I'm going to find myself a new vote target. I was very very frustrated with Ang, but logic tells me that he's innocent, as I stated before.
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Volo, I'm really confused about this role of yours.

If you can't be lynched or killed and you are on the side of us Innocents, then why won't you reveal it to us?

It doesn't make sense to me. What harm could possibly be done if you do indeed reveal your role?
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Volo, I'm really confused about this role of yours.

If you can't be lynched or killed and you are on the side of us Innocents, then why won't you reveal it to us?

It doesn't make sense to me. What harm could possibly be done if you do indeed reveal your role?
I revealed it already! We wouldn't be discussing it if I hadn't...
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Old 05-15-2007, 11:37 AM   #18
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Do you feel Sixth is worth lynching? I sure see why he is suspicious, and it might indeed be a possibility that he's a Wolf. Otherwise we need to agree, quick.
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But Volo, does anything change for you once somebody tries to kill you? Will you still be allowed to vote, for example?
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But Volo, does anything change for you once somebody tries to kill you? Will you still be allowed to vote, for example?
Nothing changes.

Gut says that Kath be a Wolf. Or the thought that she analysed too little content with too much text.
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Old 05-15-2007, 11:45 AM   #21
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I did not see your edit either before just now. . . .Interesting.

My problem is that you were my only lynch candidate other than Mac, I could change my vote but it would change nothing.
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