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Old 04-17-2007, 01:03 PM   #1
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Oh, and the Vampires will be Aganzir, Thinlómien and Nogrod.
Cheers! Nice that you let us know our roles conveniently early so that we can make perfect our nassty plans!

Looks pretty interesting, but I do have some questions.

I can understand what a vampire-Seer does. S/he's pretty powerful one as s/he can try to spot the gifteds for the vampires. I can also see that a vampire-hunter would take away one innocent when lynched. Both of these roles seem to make the vampires have the upper hand pretty definitively. To this the fact can be added that there is no voting-record to help the villagers. So are you sure about the balance of this game?

And what will a vampire-ranger do? Defend a fellow vampire that was to be lynched? Okay, I can see a point in this as the innocents who do the voting don't exactly know who was in trouble and thence a save by the vampire-ranger doesn't reveal the saved vampire for sure. Or is s/he only for saving another vampire whom the shade meant to kill at Night? In both cases, more in the first, the vampires are made even stronger.

Looking at the list above makes me think that it was probably just fair that you told the names of the vampires beforehand...


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Shade: To survive the Shade has the skills of the Ranger, Seer and Vampire, this means that the Shade can either protect, dream or kill during the night, but can’t do the same thing twice in a row. The Shade doesn’t care if the Vampires or the Villagers win.
So the shade is only interested in her/his own survival, right? And s/he wins if s/he stays alive when the game ends? So s/he needs the village to win. So s/he must care about who wins...

Is the shade then the "secret weapon" of the villagers "who will bring the balance"?

However, I still think the villagers look like being quite the underdogs here.
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Old 04-17-2007, 01:34 PM   #2
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Okay, I'm really wondering how the game is supposed to work. Won't the villagers all just vote for Aganzir, Nogrod, and Thinlomien since we already know that they're vampires?
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Old 04-17-2007, 01:48 PM   #3
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So the shade is only interested in her/his own survival, right? And s/he wins if s/he stays alive when the game ends? So s/he needs the village to win. So s/he must care about who wins...
Well, I think the shadow wouldn't necessarily need to "join" the village, as far as I understand it, at the moment the wolves win, technically there are yet the same number of ordos alive - so if the shadow is one of them, he wins as well, doesn't he?

Well, from what I understand now the biggest problem would be that there'd be an effort from the villagers to kill the Were-Ranger first, because otherwise there'd be no chance of lynching... or so I understand that...

I think it's time, Volo, to somewhat help us in our confusion, if you could...
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Old 04-17-2007, 02:06 PM   #4
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Well, I think the shadow wouldn't necessarily need to "join" the village, as far as I understand it, at the moment the wolves win, technically there are yet the same number of ordos alive - so if the shadow is one of them, he wins as well, doesn't he?
Ah, that might be possible.
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Vampires win if the total of non-Vampires (except the Shade) is equal to the number of Vampires.
So if there are equal numbers of villagers (the shade not included) and wolves left the wolves win but the shade somehow manages to not get sucked all the blood from her/him?



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Well, from what I understand now the biggest problem would be that there'd be an effort from the villagers to kill the Were-Ranger first, because otherwise there'd be no chance of lynching... or so I understand that...
I gave this a second thought and can't see that as a reasonable ruling. So it must be that the vampire-ranger is there to protect one of her/his fellows during the Nights from the shade only.

Maybe we'll have some light shed on these later.
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Old 04-17-2007, 02:22 PM   #5
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Old 04-17-2007, 04:42 PM   #6
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It sounds like the Shade is just a Serial Killer with a few extra powers: the win condition being, be the last person alive.
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Old 04-17-2007, 05:35 PM   #7
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I'mnot a fan of vampires, but this looks far too interesting to pass up. Besides, SPM, Boro, and Eomer are reappearing- I have to be involved! Sign me up, I'll PM the rest to you, Volo.
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