Morgoth's Return - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

***Thenamir*** · 03-30-2007, 11:27 AM

OK. You can choose to believe Tolkien, an expert in languages, wrote something clearly opposite of his intent. I choose to believe that Lord Halsar is actually davem in disguise.

03-30-2007, 11:59 AM

Thre will be no return for Morgoth until the end of time, when ME is about to cease to exist. Sauron is finished for good, the Witch King is a more likely candidate but unlikely as the power of his Master in him is no more. Though one cannot rule out the Nazgul returning in their original form prior to being seized by Sauron & his Rings of power, as though they have been released from a spell.

There are times when I believe that these thread moderators are a bit too heavy handed with their actions & thoughts on people's posts. Unless there is naughty behaviour exchanged between posters, naughty punishments should not be delivered. Some obscurity is essential in threads to allow a far-reaching debate, & besides there are no more obscure creatures in any world than Hobbits!

Raynor · 03-30-2007, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mansun

Thre will be no return for Morgoth until the end of time, when ME is about to cease to exist. Sauron is finished for good, the Witch King is a more likely candidate but unlikely as the power of his Master in him is no more. Though one cannot rule out the Nazgul returning in their original form prior to being seized by Sauron & his Rings of power, as though they have been released from a spell.

IIRC, Tolkien notes in the letters that the witch king has been reduced to impotence, while Gandalf state that the nazgul stand or fall by their master. I would say all evidence point to the nazgul becoming insignificant after the fall of Sauron (not even Sauron is great enough to recover). As for the rest of your post, I will simply note my disagreement and leave it at that.

***Thenamir*** · 03-30-2007, 01:05 PM

There is a difference between debating the differing views of an obscure point and inserting wildly and radically non-canonical points that fly in the face of well established and thoroughly documented sources. Open minded scientists may well differ as to whether light consists of particles or waves, but they will not waste time with the theory of a McDonald's grease-jockey that postulates that light consists of macaroni and cheese.

As Squatter has noted (and as LH has taken the hint) such theories are better discussed in the Mirth forum, where the point is being discussed in a lively fashion even now.

Lord Halsar · 03-30-2007, 01:10 PM

Thank You... I think.
though it was not my intention to make it a humor article in the mirth, i guess its better than nothing.

03-30-2007, 11:27 AM	#1
*Thenamir* Spectre of Capitalism Join Date: May 2001 Location: Battling evil bureaucrats at Zeta Aquilae Posts: 987	OK. You can choose to believe Tolkien, an expert in languages, wrote something clearly opposite of his intent. I choose to believe that Lord Halsar is actually davem in disguise. __________________ The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. ~~ Marcus Aurelius

03-30-2007, 11:59 AM	#2
Mansun Guest Posts: n/a	Thre will be no return for Morgoth until the end of time, when ME is about to cease to exist. Sauron is finished for good, the Witch King is a more likely candidate but unlikely as the power of his Master in him is no more. Though one cannot rule out the Nazgul returning in their original form prior to being seized by Sauron & his Rings of power, as though they have been released from a spell. There are times when I believe that these thread moderators are a bit too heavy handed with their actions & thoughts on people's posts. Unless there is naughty behaviour exchanged between posters, naughty punishments should not be delivered. Some obscurity is essential in threads to allow a far-reaching debate, & besides there are no more obscure creatures in any world than Hobbits! Last edited by Mansun; 03-30-2007 at 12:14 PM.

03-30-2007, 01:05 PM	#4
*Thenamir* Spectre of Capitalism Join Date: May 2001 Location: Battling evil bureaucrats at Zeta Aquilae Posts: 987	There is a difference between debating the differing views of an obscure point and inserting wildly and radically non-canonical points that fly in the face of well established and thoroughly documented sources. Open minded scientists may well differ as to whether light consists of particles or waves, but they will not waste time with the theory of a McDonald's grease-jockey that postulates that light consists of macaroni and cheese. As Squatter has noted (and as LH has taken the hint) such theories are better discussed in the Mirth forum, where the point is being discussed in a lively fashion even now. __________________ The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. ~~ Marcus Aurelius

03-30-2007, 01:10 PM	#5
Lord Halsar Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: 'Round the corner, down the well, passed the Balrog, straight to HELL! Posts: 77	Thank You... I think. though it was not my intention to make it a humor article in the mirth, i guess its better than nothing. __________________ My time is at an end, for I have walked from Valinor to the Far-east where men have not gone for millennia. Demons have fallen before me. And now... I must rest...