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A Voice That Gainsayeth
Join Date: Nov 2006
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So, for Gollum (or Bilbo or Frodo), to "fade" (turn into a wraith) would need from them that they wear the Ring very often. The Men who later became Nazgul probably had them on most of the time, if not all the time - the Rings gave them power to command people, granted them wisdom, sorcerous powers or whatever, we can only guess. But Bilbo put the Ring on only when he wanted to disappear from the Sackville-Bagginses and in similar occasions; Frodo put the Ring on only few times and the main source of his "fading" was the Morgul-wound. Otherwise, he had no "physical" problems with the Ring, only psychical. And Gollum? Well, Gollum also didn't put it on in the later days: Quote:
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Speaking of "physically" - I don't think Gollum had actually changed "physically" (the same point about the slime). It is not that he mutated into an alien creature. For your question, I would answer no, of course he wouldn't look like a normal Stoor again. His change was given by living in the caves with no light (possibly big eyes capable to see in dark), living near the lake (arms&legs more capable of swimming), having very poor eating habits (very thin he had became), and the "slime" certainly meant nothing more or less than when Aragorn found him he was covered in slime because he was puddling in the mud and slimy water. As he did most of the time, so he was actually slimy all the time, but not from his own. Or maybe, his skin might have developed something like a "self-sliming system" to keep him wet, though... he probably wouldn't have need of something like this in the cave near the lake. But mainly, he did not become "something else" - he was still a Stoor, physically (if you took his DNA and scanned his skeleton and internal organs via X-rays, he would still be classified as Stoor). Quote:
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A Voice That Gainsayeth
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Oh, of course, I forgot the Dwarves... these were Men and Hobbits I had in mind. Dwarves... such a minority, who cares of them?
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If the Ring has been destroyed, & Gollum didn't have the chance to jump into the fire to try & save it, he would most probably have lost consciousness & never regained it lol. The Ring made him merely continue, but once it is no more, he cannot continue as all the motivation & treacherous power of the Ring is taken away. He even said himself that once Ring died, he would die with it. Bilbo had not yet got to this stage of destruction, but if he was present to see it destroyed, he would see it as the end of a nightmare like Frodo.
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