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Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-11-2007, 01:04 PM

Actually, I think since you said "north", then Arvedui it was...

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Originally Posted by LotR Appendix A

Arvedui Last-king †1975. End of the North-kingdom.

But let's not quibble over semantics. Here is the new one:

What were the names of the two close relatives, who were among the Corsairs of Umbar?

The Might · 03-13-2007, 07:44 AM

Sangahyando and Angamaite perhaps?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-13-2007, 08:57 AM

Of course, TM. Whom else could I have expected to answer

The Might · 03-13-2007, 10:05 AM

I thought about this answer yesterday already, but I thought it might be wrong since as great grandsons of Castamir, they might not be seen as "close" relatives...but as I didn't know any other names I tried it

Anyway...

Where and how did Aragorn's grandfather on his father's side die?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-13-2007, 10:28 AM

If I remember correctly, then he was killed by trolls north of Rivendell... Coldfalls, or how was it called.

The Might · 03-13-2007, 10:38 AM

How is correct, where...

Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-13-2007, 10:48 AM

Okay, I had to look it up. Coldfells was the name of that place. It is called simply "Cold Waterfalls" in Czech...

The Might · 03-13-2007, 10:51 AM

Looking forward to your next question

Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-13-2007, 12:05 PM

This is probably not so hard as braintester, but I think it is very typical "trivia" question...

How many fingers were on Treebeard's hands?

The Might · 03-13-2007, 02:07 PM

10?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-13-2007, 02:13 PM

Nope.

The Might · 03-13-2007, 02:18 PM

Now that I read through the chapter again, I am not so sure fingers are ever mentioned...
He didn't have any at all I guess

Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-13-2007, 02:39 PM

No, I can assure you there is precisely said how many fingers he had.

Gil-Galad · 03-13-2007, 04:41 PM

going to guess with 4 on each hand...

Thinlómien · 03-14-2007, 01:43 AM

Twelve?

The Might · 03-14-2007, 06:14 AM

Well, all I know is he had 7 toes on each foot...
But fingers on his hands...maybe 14 then?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-14-2007, 07:37 AM

Well, I must apologize, I realize now what is written in the original... of course I was using the translation and there it seems as if he had seven fingers on his hands, where the original speaks obviously about seven toes on feet.

I should have looked it up, but it didn't even come to my mind that the translation could be so twisted

*scratches head* Since if I started from the original, I would probably have asked about the toes, then TM's answer would be correct and I'll pass the thread to him. Most of the other answers, maybe except Gil-Galad's, would anyway be wrong - at least if Treebeard was like other ents. There is said that generally they had "anything from three to nine" (both about the fingers and toes). So TM, ask away.

The Might · 03-14-2007, 08:37 AM

Translations can be a problem sometimes...

Anyway, who hid himself in abandoned mines?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-14-2007, 01:21 PM

Arvedui? These were Dwarven mines, and he hid himself there after his retreat from the defeat by Witch-King...

The Might · 03-14-2007, 01:25 PM

I was actually hoping it will take longer to answer, since it's only a pretty obscure thing...guess the thread is yours.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-15-2007, 12:39 PM

Well, it happens I like to look at stuff like that, these "not-too-common" things. I like it, because you can see stories or characters behind it that you'd otherwise pay a little attention to. And since the story of the Arnorian chieftains is very elaborate, I have the bits of it in my mind

Okay, it took me now some time, since I was trying to come up also with something "not too ordinary"... I hope this will be interesting enough:

Who was the person whom even the Lord of the Nazgul feared, but who received a Morgul-wound and died?

The Might · 03-16-2007, 08:11 AM

Earnur I believe...
He clearly died from a Morgul-wound as he accepted the Wicht-king's challenge some time later and never returned

Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-17-2007, 07:58 AM

No, it was not Eärnur

WK mocked him, he wasn't afraid of him, maybe not at all, and we don't know for sure what his fate was, maybe he died by Morgul-wound, maybe he was tortured to death, maybe something else. But the person I am looking for is someone else. Someone... well, someone the WK feared and who died later by the Morgul-wound, as I said earlier

The Might · 03-17-2007, 08:19 AM

This makes me think of Frodo
I believe the WK did fear him, and it was the Morgul wound that forced him to leave Middle-earth

Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-17-2007, 09:02 AM

Perhaps he feared him, but this is not who I am looking for. That person actually died.

The Might · 03-17-2007, 10:21 AM

I forgot about Boromir, son of Denethor I

Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-17-2007, 10:54 AM

That was him. Interesting person he must have been, just from what is written about him... not to forget that Boromir of the Nine Walkers was named after him...

Your turn

The Might · 03-17-2007, 01:08 PM

I guess it was somehow a repeating pattern of the father called Denethor, and the son Boromir

Who wanted to punish others by throwing them into snake pits?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-17-2007, 01:26 PM

The Goblins of Misty-Mountains? The Great Goblin, namely.

The Might · 03-17-2007, 01:44 PM

I was hoping that Hobbit questions might be harder to answer

Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-17-2007, 02:37 PM

They do, but I just have some things (including the speech of the Great Goblin) in memory, so...

But if you say the Hobbit ones are more difficult, what about this: Which person owns red handkerchiefs? (or, at least owned one, which was borrowed by Bilbo - but this implies that this person owns more red handkerchiefs in general

)

The Might · 03-17-2007, 05:28 PM

Well, he took Elrond's red silk handkerchief...poor Elrond

Anyway, looking for the answer, I came across something else which I find interesting, but that's another topic

Who made Minas Anor the permanent residence of the king?

Dimturiel · 03-18-2007, 12:09 PM

Wasn't it Ostoher?

The Might · 03-18-2007, 02:17 PM

No

Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-18-2007, 03:27 PM

King Tarondor, eh?

The Might · 03-19-2007, 08:35 AM

yep, Ostoher only made it the summer residence

Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-20-2007, 10:32 AM

Who was the person who almost saved Théodred at the Battles of Isen?

The Might · 03-20-2007, 10:40 AM

Grimbold if I remember correctly
Anyway...I've always thought that Rohan made a big strategical mistake there and lost too many men unnecessarily

Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-20-2007, 10:53 AM

Correct, Grimbold it was.

And I don't know about the strategical mistake, because it is one of the parts of the ME history I am not much familiar with. But you might take the thread

The Might · 03-20-2007, 01:53 PM

Well...I think they could have used those forces much better to maybe attack Saruman's Uruks on one side of the river and then return for the others, or as Erkenbrand proposed I think to retreat a short distance and then with a cavalry charge drive all the forces on one side into the river, then go for the others. But I'm no military strategist, so I'll leave it as it is.

What Ent died during the attack on Isengard?

03-13-2007, 07:44 AM	#362
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Sangahyando and Angamaite perhaps? __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

03-13-2007, 08:57 AM	#363
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Of course, TM. Whom else could I have expected to answer __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

03-13-2007, 10:05 AM	#364
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	I thought about this answer yesterday already, but I thought it might be wrong since as great grandsons of Castamir, they might not be seen as "close" relatives...but as I didn't know any other names I tried it Anyway... Where and how did Aragorn's grandfather on his father's side die? __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

03-13-2007, 10:28 AM	#365
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	If I remember correctly, then he was killed by trolls north of Rivendell... Coldfalls, or how was it called. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

03-13-2007, 10:38 AM	#366
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	How is correct, where... __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

03-13-2007, 10:48 AM	#367
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Okay, I had to look it up. Coldfells was the name of that place. It is called simply "Cold Waterfalls" in Czech... __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

03-13-2007, 10:51 AM	#368
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Looking forward to your next question __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

03-13-2007, 12:05 PM	#369
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Fine This is probably not so hard as braintester, but I think it is very typical "trivia" question... How many fingers were on Treebeard's hands? __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

03-13-2007, 02:07 PM	#370
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	10? __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

03-13-2007, 02:13 PM	#371
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Nope. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

03-13-2007, 02:18 PM	#372
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Now that I read through the chapter again, I am not so sure fingers are ever mentioned... He didn't have any at all I guess __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

03-13-2007, 02:39 PM	#373
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	No, I can assure you there is precisely said how many fingers he had. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

03-13-2007, 04:41 PM	#374
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	going to guess with 4 on each hand... __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

03-14-2007, 01:43 AM	#375
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Twelve? __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

03-14-2007, 06:14 AM	#376
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Well, all I know is he had 7 toes on each foot... But fingers on his hands...maybe 14 then? __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

03-14-2007, 07:37 AM	#377
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Well, I must apologize, I realize now what is written in the original... of course I was using the translation and there it seems as if he had seven fingers on his hands, where the original speaks obviously about seven toes on feet. I should have looked it up, but it didn't even come to my mind that the translation could be so twisted scratches head Since if I started from the original, I would probably have asked about the toes, then TM's answer would be correct and I'll pass the thread to him. Most of the other answers, maybe except Gil-Galad's, would anyway be wrong - at least if Treebeard was like other ents. There is said that generally they had "anything from three to nine" (both about the fingers and toes). So TM, ask away. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

03-14-2007, 08:37 AM	#378
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Translations can be a problem sometimes... Anyway, who hid himself in abandoned mines? __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

03-14-2007, 01:21 PM	#379
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Arvedui? These were Dwarven mines, and he hid himself there after his retreat from the defeat by Witch-King... __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

03-14-2007, 01:25 PM	#380
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	I was actually hoping it will take longer to answer, since it's only a pretty obscure thing...guess the thread is yours. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

03-15-2007, 12:39 PM	#381
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Another question Well, it happens I like to look at stuff like that, these "not-too-common" things. I like it, because you can see stories or characters behind it that you'd otherwise pay a little attention to. And since the story of the Arnorian chieftains is very elaborate, I have the bits of it in my mind Okay, it took me now some time, since I was trying to come up also with something "not too ordinary"... I hope this will be interesting enough: Who was the person whom even the Lord of the Nazgul feared, but who received a Morgul-wound and died? __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

03-16-2007, 08:11 AM	#382
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Earnur I believe... He clearly died from a Morgul-wound as he accepted the Wicht-king's challenge some time later and never returned __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

03-17-2007, 07:58 AM	#383
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	No, it was not Eärnur WK mocked him, he wasn't afraid of him, maybe not at all, and we don't know for sure what his fate was, maybe he died by Morgul-wound, maybe he was tortured to death, maybe something else. But the person I am looking for is someone else. Someone... well, someone the WK feared and who died later by the Morgul-wound, as I said earlier __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

03-17-2007, 08:19 AM	#384
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	This makes me think of Frodo I believe the WK did fear him, and it was the Morgul wound that forced him to leave Middle-earth __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

03-17-2007, 09:02 AM	#385
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Perhaps he feared him, but this is not who I am looking for. That person actually died. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

03-17-2007, 10:21 AM	#386
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	I forgot about Boromir, son of Denethor I __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

03-17-2007, 10:54 AM	#387
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	That was him. Interesting person he must have been, just from what is written about him... not to forget that Boromir of the Nine Walkers was named after him... Your turn __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

03-17-2007, 01:08 PM	#388
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	I guess it was somehow a repeating pattern of the father called Denethor, and the son Boromir Who wanted to punish others by throwing them into snake pits? __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

03-17-2007, 01:26 PM	#389
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	The Goblins of Misty-Mountains? The Great Goblin, namely. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

03-17-2007, 01:44 PM	#390
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	I was hoping that Hobbit questions might be harder to answer __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

03-17-2007, 02:37 PM	#391
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	They do, but I just have some things (including the speech of the Great Goblin) in memory, so... But if you say the Hobbit ones are more difficult, what about this: Which person owns red handkerchiefs? (or, at least owned one, which was borrowed by Bilbo - but this implies that this person owns more red handkerchiefs in general ) __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

03-17-2007, 05:28 PM	#392
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Well, he took Elrond's red silk handkerchief...poor Elrond Anyway, looking for the answer, I came across something else which I find interesting, but that's another topic Who made Minas Anor the permanent residence of the king? __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

03-18-2007, 12:09 PM	#393
Dimturiel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2005 Location: the road less travelled by Posts: 910	Wasn't it Ostoher? __________________ Is this the end? No more the hunt, the journey and the goal? That terrifies me most: no more the goal! -Ray Bradbury, Leviathan '99

03-18-2007, 02:17 PM	#394
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	No __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

03-18-2007, 03:27 PM	#395
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	King Tarondor, eh? __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

03-19-2007, 08:35 AM	#396
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	yep, Ostoher only made it the summer residence __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown