Werewolf XXX - Tol-in-Elendili - The Isle of the Were-Faithfuls

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Lalaith

Brinniel was not one of my top suspects, no.

I know. I was responding to this:

Originally Posted by Lalaith

Ah, but none of my suspects have been tried at the lynch yet.

You expressed suspicion of her. You voted for her on that basis, even though she was not one of your top suspects. And she was lynched.

You on the other hand have three times categorically stated that you were "sure" that innocents were Faithfuls. First with Rikae and Noggie, then with Rune and Brinniel ...

I never said that I was "sure" that they were Faithfuls. I said that they were uppermost in my suspicions. Of them, I felt most strongly about Rune.

I am, however, becoming more convinced about you with every post.

[Lalaith]

Pants on fire, Saucie:

I am fairly sure that one of these two is a Faithful

[The Saucepan Man]

Yes, I am aware that I said that. It's hardly the same as "categorically" stating that I was "sure" they were Faithfuls.

Brinniel's subsequent contributions lessened my suspicions of her. Hence my switch to Rune, who looked the more suspicious to me.

[The Saucepan Man]

I have been considering further my lists of votes for known innocents. I remain wary of those who have managed to avoid doing so, namely Hookbill and Gil-Galad (although Gil's only non-"no vote" before toDay was for me). I'm going to bear it in mind, although I am still not sure whether Manwe is still with us. If not, it will be clear whether Hookbill has been voting for an innocent or a Faithful toMorrow.

I'm not sure if there's much more to read from those lists. Everyone else seems to have been rather consistent in voting for know innocents.

[Lalaith]

Pshaw. Quibbling with semantics.

Anyway, this squabble feels like a distraction to me.

I am not given to categoric statements of guilt but I am very suspicious of Saucepanman, guy and Durelin, and I will vote for one of them depending on where the votes are going.
This may sound suspiciously self-serving - but I don't want to die. If the numbers were less dangerous, it might be beneficial for the village if I were lynched - the revelation of my innocence would usefully implicate a lot of people. (Eg If there's any wolf-on-wolf voting going on right now, I would guess it might be Kath on Saucie)
But given that the numbers are against us innocents, we really need to get a wolf today.

[Nogrod]

Oh my!

What's going on? Where did this Lalaith bandwaggon come from? Well, from SPaM I see...

I don't hold it impossible that you're right about it Saucie, but I wouldn't put it past you to finally make a Faithful-on-Faithful either. But then again you can't be blamed about others jumping on your train...

This is somewhat fishy indeed. Mith monomaniacally being after Lalaith from Day1 is quite weird as well. Who could do that but a Faithful who wishes to clear her footsteps?

I'm still against voting for Gil because he's a shot in the dark and this is one of the last Days we innocents have something like a clear margin to turn the vote right. Next Day, if we get it wrong now - it's only 7/4 and the Faithfuls will be twisting everything much more successfully.

[Mithalwen]

Oh for godness sake ... either I my vote is from nowhere and I am bandwaggoning or I am monomaniac... I can't be both ..though I would say neither.. I have suspected Lalaith since Day one and have had no reason to doubt that suspicion.

[Nogrod]

Now for the reasaons why I thought Lalaith made good points.

First of all she shared my initial suspicions and that always feels nice.

But I must say I'm aware that she might have done that deliberately to get me defend her position. That is possible.

But also Spm's defence was a bit fishy. Like him denying the ratio of the suspects turning out innocents. In there I think Lalaith actually had a point which indeed fits nicely with the little detail I noticed on Day1 where he twice reminded us of his history of being a serial voter-of-gifteds so nicely undermining his future track record?

But why I still think there might be a point in suspecting the trio (tgwbs, Durelin and Saucie) is their relative distancedness in this game. I mean they all have been in the middle of the game as doers and as those who have been talked about. Still there seem to be relatively few instances where they have said anything about each other. That is not counting the odd row over Durelin defending Spm toDay - in which Spm's point looked a bit fabricated to be honest.

But anyhow they seem to be nicely detached. Like good Faithfuls would be.

Also I find it odd that tgwbs wishes us to go for a blind lynch of Gil. That can't be in our best interests. Funny then that after I said half-jokingly that we should not lynch anyone of these three (in a moment when no one else seemed to post anything) Spm was only too happy to ask me if I would like to suggest trying to pick a silent one... And as a minor detail also Durelin commented on the familiar Noggie annoyed by those silent to be back after I had made a side-comment on the fact that I didn't like the quietness of this village back then.

See also these:

Originally Posted by tgwbs

I think it impossible that a Cobbler would accuse somebody they think to be a wolf. About their innocent feelings, they might be more honest, but they have no interest in accusing potential-wolves.

On the contrary. I wouldn't like to get bogged down into this but I do think you're giving us bad advices all the time, just like a Faithful would love to do. Why would a cobbler wish to be so readable? Not to say a cobbler as crafty as Roa is? Maybe you are a mathematician (even if I disagree with some of your maths...) and see the world as a clear and simple thing?

Originally Posted by Durelin

Just like everyone else, I don't read every post on the thread. So lynch me.

Even though some points in Kath's last post kind of shows that she hasn't read all toDay (and with a rushed day one can understand it) but I just don't believe this from you. So why do you say so?

I might go for one of these people, but I'm trying to widen my scope a bit before it's time to vote. Lalaith I'm unsure of and Kath just freaks me out... not to talk of Kitanna's last vote that just looks sooo fishy!