Inconsistencies in the book - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Raynor · 02-25-2007, 03:52 PM

Sauron didn't actually see Luthien in his tower, because he was "wrapped in black thought". Interestingly enough, Tolkien makes a passing refference in Myths Transformed, that evil begets stupidity

Regarding Sauron in the movie, I found his depiction at the battle of the last alliance as distasteful. He was sweepping numenoreans and elves, when the books mention he was forced to fight himself. And to go from that to have his hand accidentally cut (not cut after being thrown down) is ridiculous.

02-25-2007, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Raynor

Regarding Sauron in the movie, I found his depiction at the battle of the last alliance as distasteful. He was sweepping numenoreans and elves, when the books mention he was forced to fight himself. And to go from that to have his hand accidentally cut (not cut after being thrown down) is ridiculous.

At least the presence of Sauron in this scene was amazing in that he put the entire opposing army at a standstill as they looked on in mesmorizing fear. No other character, not even the Witch King at the height of his power, could have managed that.

The 1,000 Reader · 02-25-2007, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Raynor

Sauron didn't actually see Luthien in his tower, because he was "wrapped in black thought". Interestingly enough, Tolkien makes a passing refference in Myths Transformed, that evil begets stupidity

I know, but it still is highly pathetic. It had such an impact, I now get the feeling that a standard soldier could have beaten him in a one-on-one fight. Honestly, he seemed too pathetic to take seriously after that event. He just seemed like a fickle idiot.

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Originally Posted by Raynor

Regarding Sauron in the movie, I found his depiction at the battle of the last alliance as distasteful. He was sweepping numenoreans and elves, when the books mention he was forced to fight himself. And to go from that to have his hand accidentally cut (not cut after being thrown down) is ridiculous.

Dude, the movie would lose a lot of impact if we saw the main, dangerous bad guy get taken out by two relatively minor characters just like that. A big part of the movies that made me interested was that the enemy seemed powerful. If it started out with the Dark Lord getting taken out and utterly defeated like the books, a lot of film-goers would say "So they can kill him just like that? All I see as a problem is the Ring!" If the villain is already demonstrated as defeatable and the armies soundly crushed, a large amount of the epic feel is lost. What works for books doesn't always work for movies.

Raynor · 02-26-2007, 12:05 AM

I feel that we are straying away from topic, and the tone isn't helping either. I will step out for a while.

02-25-2007, 03:52 PM	#1
Raynor Eagle of the Star Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sarmisegethuza Posts: 1,058	Sauron didn't actually see Luthien in his tower, because he was "wrapped in black thought". Interestingly enough, Tolkien makes a passing refference in Myths Transformed, that evil begets stupidity Regarding Sauron in the movie, I found his depiction at the battle of the last alliance as distasteful. He was sweepping numenoreans and elves, when the books mention he was forced to fight himself. And to go from that to have his hand accidentally cut (not cut after being thrown down) is ridiculous. __________________ "May the wicked become good. May the good obtain peace. May the peaceful be freed from bonds. May the freed set others free."

02-26-2007, 12:05 AM	#4
Raynor Eagle of the Star Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sarmisegethuza Posts: 1,058	I feel that we are straying away from topic, and the tone isn't helping either. I will step out for a while. __________________ "May the wicked become good. May the good obtain peace. May the peaceful be freed from bonds. May the freed set others free."