Treachery of Men Discussion/Planning Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Celuien · 02-11-2007, 02:55 PM

I'd imagine that Ulfast doesn't have a regular schedule that brings him out of the hall. However, he does have a habit of taking nighttime walks. If he visits the town, it's usually to meet with his allies, but it's not on any particularly known timeframe.

Ulfast doesn't trust the general pool of servants from the hall - he thinks they're all spies for Uldor - so he keeps a few of his own to run any of his more personal errands, such as the sword commission. But I'd expect that things like groceries are more general hall business that he doesn't really concern his personal staff with.

Nogrod · 02-11-2007, 04:01 PM

That seems to be just as I feared it would be. Too canny brothers to have any weak spots...

Now what I see as important is the following: only Uldor seems to have a servant / servants. So maybe Kath and I should edit our respective posts to attribute the servant-stuff to Uldor... I'll do it immediately after this post myself.

And we might possibly make the person I mentioned, Crogulf, the man of whose wife Bergr knows so it's the one and the same servant and his wife.

Foley: would you like to have a guy named Crogulf as Uldor's servant, even though he seems to be a drunkard spending his evenings at the Dragontail Inn when possible?

Of course we can edit all the talk of the servants out if needs be.

Child: all this seems to be calling for at least some missions straight from Khandr ie. "official things" to contact the brothers. I'll put a post into the thread where Fastarr suggests one possibility.

Nogrod · 02-11-2007, 04:41 PM

Mith: please when you post your gatecrashing post, remove the save and post it as a new one as I have already posted something that happens before the Elves get in...

EDIT: Lalaith has also posted things that happen before the elves come in...

Nogrod · 02-11-2007, 05:11 PM

Child: I had to use Khandr a little bit to not make it a pure monologue. I tried to make it as obvious as possible. If there is something you wish to change...

(And now I will stop this flood-posting)

Anguirel · 02-12-2007, 06:30 AM

Mith, I've pre-empted your gate-crashing...sorry. Hope you like my post...felt we had to get there otherwise we wouldn't catch anything interesting!

It's occurred to me that with a formal feast to receive us later, we Elves are going to have a pretty busy night. Also, how and when are we to be told about the feast?

I suggest that someone in the employ of the Chieftain or one of his sons should have seen us making our way to Khandr's tent, and that a messenger from the Hall (played by, say, CoD -could perhaps be Brodda himself, or even Ulfast who's close by at Dag's smithy) come to ask us Elves to the Hall...but slightly pointedly, not Khandr.

Dimturiel, I haven't forgotten our plans. Do you want to create an NPC for Tora's father, or shall I?

Mithalwen · 02-12-2007, 06:39 AM

OK..... will fit in..... was confined to barracks dsomewhat over the weekend then couldn't access the downs...

sorry Tathren will get more active I promise

Anguirel · 02-12-2007, 06:47 AM

I have no doubt of it Mith. All completely fine.

On the other hand, Volo and Garen LiLorian have yet to post to the game. I think I will PM both of them; if they're too busy, their characters can be claimed by other players, given to new players or made into NPCs.

Folwren · 02-12-2007, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Foley: would you like to have a guy named Crogulf as Uldor's servant, even though he seems to be a drunkard spending his evenings at the Dragontail Inn when possible?

Of course we can edit all the talk of the servants out if needs be.

I think it's brilliant. When I read about him in your post on the game thread, my first thought was, "Golly, when Uldor finds out that Crogulf's been spreading talk and information about him when he's drunk, he's not going to be happy."

I don't know how much Crogulf will know of anything important, understand. He may not know too much. It depends on what sort of information you're expecting to get out of him. :P

Anguirel, as Uldor has been prodded into actually preparing the feast, I guess he can be the one who sends someone to invite the elves. Does CoD want to play the messenger?

-- Folwren

CaptainofDespair · 02-12-2007, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Folwren

Does CoD want to play the messenger?

Perhaps. I am getting involved with our dear Jord, as Durelin's last post indicated. If I can wrap that up fairly soon (which may take at least a week, given the amount of papers and reading that I must do for my courses) then I would certainly act as the messenger to the Elves.

Dimturiel · 02-12-2007, 12:52 PM

Anguirel, you won't mind if I left Tora's father to you, would you? I sort of lack inspiration for such a character, and anyway, I'm quite busy at the moment, so Tora is as much as I can manage right now.

Anguirel · 02-12-2007, 02:21 PM

Dimturiel, nothing would give me more pleasure. Though handing Tora's father into my power may put her in more danger of Drenda's suit!

Volo has resigned from this RP; the role of Anydor is open for a new player; until someone comes forward he is an NPC, up for grabs if anyone thinks he could be useful.

Nogrod · 02-13-2007, 03:55 PM

Anguirel: I think Khandr lives in an actual wooden building - and not a small one - not in a tent. I think I recall some discussion about this issue from a long time ago (and haven't just now the time to check it) where Child said she preferred an actual house. And at least I myself have after that written about a gate that is opened to get to the "yard", about stables on which wall a kicked pebble would hit and about stairs one needs to climb to get in... but check Child about this.

Foley: I didn't think Crogulf would tell us "everything"...

What I was thinking was mainly stuff like how the brothers fare together in general or some possible hints of how his master had behaved as the ambassadours visited or something. So don't be afraid, I try to make this somewhat realistic anyhow - you know me in this...

All: What say you? How general knowledge it is in the Ulfing settlement that the brothers don't come some well together / the bitter relations between the father & the sons? What is general knowledge and where goes the line where their plottings are known only to themselves and us writers here in the thread?

02-11-2007, 02:55 PM	#1
Celuien Riveting Ribbiter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Assigned to Mordor Posts: 1,767	I'd imagine that Ulfast doesn't have a regular schedule that brings him out of the hall. However, he does have a habit of taking nighttime walks. If he visits the town, it's usually to meet with his allies, but it's not on any particularly known timeframe. Ulfast doesn't trust the general pool of servants from the hall - he thinks they're all spies for Uldor - so he keeps a few of his own to run any of his more personal errands, such as the sword commission. But I'd expect that things like groceries are more general hall business that he doesn't really concern his personal staff with. __________________ People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect. But actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey... stuff.

02-11-2007, 04:01 PM	#2
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	That seems to be just as I feared it would be. Too canny brothers to have any weak spots... Now what I see as important is the following: only Uldor seems to have a servant / servants. So maybe Kath and I should edit our respective posts to attribute the servant-stuff to Uldor... I'll do it immediately after this post myself. And we might possibly make the person I mentioned, Crogulf, the man of whose wife Bergr knows so it's the one and the same servant and his wife. Foley: would you like to have a guy named Crogulf as Uldor's servant, even though he seems to be a drunkard spending his evenings at the Dragontail Inn when possible? Of course we can edit all the talk of the servants out if needs be. Child: all this seems to be calling for at least some missions straight from Khandr ie. "official things" to contact the brothers. I'll put a post into the thread where Fastarr suggests one possibility. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

02-11-2007, 04:41 PM	#3
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Mith: please when you post your gatecrashing post, remove the save and post it as a new one as I have already posted something that happens before the Elves get in... EDIT: Lalaith has also posted things that happen before the elves come in... __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet... Last edited by Nogrod; 02-11-2007 at 04:49 PM.

02-11-2007, 05:11 PM	#4
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Child: I had to use Khandr a little bit to not make it a pure monologue. I tried to make it as obvious as possible. If there is something you wish to change... (And now I will stop this flood-posting) __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

02-12-2007, 06:30 AM	#5
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	Mith, I've pre-empted your gate-crashing...sorry. Hope you like my post...felt we had to get there otherwise we wouldn't catch anything interesting! It's occurred to me that with a formal feast to receive us later, we Elves are going to have a pretty busy night. Also, how and when are we to be told about the feast? I suggest that someone in the employ of the Chieftain or one of his sons should have seen us making our way to Khandr's tent, and that a messenger from the Hall (played by, say, CoD -could perhaps be Brodda himself, or even Ulfast who's close by at Dag's smithy) come to ask us Elves to the Hall...but slightly pointedly, not Khandr. Dimturiel, I haven't forgotten our plans. Do you want to create an NPC for Tora's father, or shall I? __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

02-12-2007, 06:39 AM	#6
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,460	OK..... will fit in..... was confined to barracks dsomewhat over the weekend then couldn't access the downs... sorry Tathren will get more active I promise __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

02-12-2007, 06:47 AM	#7
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	I have no doubt of it Mith. All completely fine. On the other hand, Volo and Garen LiLorian have yet to post to the game. I think I will PM both of them; if they're too busy, their characters can be claimed by other players, given to new players or made into NPCs. __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

02-12-2007, 12:52 PM	#10
Dimturiel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2005 Location: the road less travelled by Posts: 910	Anguirel, you won't mind if I left Tora's father to you, would you? I sort of lack inspiration for such a character, and anyway, I'm quite busy at the moment, so Tora is as much as I can manage right now. __________________ Is this the end? No more the hunt, the journey and the goal? That terrifies me most: no more the goal! -Ray Bradbury, Leviathan '99

02-12-2007, 02:21 PM	#11
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	Dimturiel, nothing would give me more pleasure. Though handing Tora's father into my power may put her in more danger of Drenda's suit! Volo has resigned from this RP; the role of Anydor is open for a new player; until someone comes forward he is an NPC, up for grabs if anyone thinks he could be useful. __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

02-13-2007, 03:55 PM	#12
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Anguirel: I think Khandr lives in an actual wooden building - and not a small one - not in a tent. I think I recall some discussion about this issue from a long time ago (and haven't just now the time to check it) where Child said she preferred an actual house. And at least I myself have after that written about a gate that is opened to get to the "yard", about stables on which wall a kicked pebble would hit and about stairs one needs to climb to get in... but check Child about this. Foley: I didn't think Crogulf would tell us "everything"... What I was thinking was mainly stuff like how the brothers fare together in general or some possible hints of how his master had behaved as the ambassadours visited or something. So don't be afraid, I try to make this somewhat realistic anyhow - you know me in this... All: What say you? How general knowledge it is in the Ulfing settlement that the brothers don't come some well together / the bitter relations between the father & the sons? What is general knowledge and where goes the line where their plottings are known only to themselves and us writers here in the thread? __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...