Treachery of Men Discussion/Planning Thread

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Lalaith

Yes, I wanted to put that in too, but there seems to be a smiley limit in posts.

Fortunately/unfortunately there is...

Celuien & Foley:I went through all your posts but sadly there was very little revealing the way these brothers go on with their daily life. But have you thought of it? Would there be some things in their daily bussinessess that might be known by people generally like A going to have a walk at time B almost every day or C paying a visit to place D regularly? Or anything like that? E's servant always making the groceries at place F, villager G visiting brother H regularly or known to have good relations with him...?

And I stress that I mean things that would be general knowledge in the town.

[Folwren]

Ulwarth likes to appear the bumbling idiot that hides in the hall day in and day out, shy of strangers, and all that. So, most people probably don't see him much. I am not saying that he never leaves the hall, he just doesn't do it so that many people know it.

Uldor, on the other hand, doesn't bother to hide himself, but I can't say that he has any set schedule. I've a feeling that he likes to go out for a lot of 'walks'. These walks probably have a lot of different purposes, but mostly it is to think and to plot by himself. Also, he likes to see what the common people are up to, where their loyalty lies and what their qualities are. Not that he talks much with them. He's more likely to silently observe. Whether or not he is observed himself doesn't bother him much. Though, occasionally, I don't doubt he walks the streets incognito and pretty much 'spies' people out.

As for servants...yes, there might be a few here and there now and again, but not really any personal servants right now, that I know of. You must understand, that this character of mine is much deeper and has a lot of history and a lot of friends that I don't know about yet. I think that Anguirel's character is pretty close to Uldor, but we haven't had a chance to figure that out yet in the game. I'm letting it rest until they meet in the game, as you've probably noticed.

The grocery shopping people are just hirelings of the hall in general. No one close to Uldor or Ulwarth.

Celuien will speak for Ulfast, I'm sure.

-- Folwren

[Child of the 7th Age]

Okay. But in the actual thread it should be Khandr who gives the individual tasks. It's hard to see the relations between him and his retainer / servants / hunters as that democratic...

Nogrod,

Yes, I think you're right, but I was talking as Child rather than Khandr. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

Let me know what arrangement you two would prefer and I'll make sure Khandr says that in his instructions....either by editing my original post or by referring to it in one of his later posts. I just wanted to handle this in the manner you and Kath felt most comfortable with....

[Celuien]

I'd imagine that Ulfast doesn't have a regular schedule that brings him out of the hall. However, he does have a habit of taking nighttime walks. If he visits the town, it's usually to meet with his allies, but it's not on any particularly known timeframe.

Ulfast doesn't trust the general pool of servants from the hall - he thinks they're all spies for Uldor - so he keeps a few of his own to run any of his more personal errands, such as the sword commission. But I'd expect that things like groceries are more general hall business that he doesn't really concern his personal staff with.

[Nogrod]

That seems to be just as I feared it would be. Too canny brothers to have any weak spots...

Now what I see as important is the following: only Uldor seems to have a servant / servants. So maybe Kath and I should edit our respective posts to attribute the servant-stuff to Uldor... I'll do it immediately after this post myself.

And we might possibly make the person I mentioned, Crogulf, the man of whose wife Bergr knows so it's the one and the same servant and his wife.

Foley: would you like to have a guy named Crogulf as Uldor's servant, even though he seems to be a drunkard spending his evenings at the Dragontail Inn when possible?

Of course we can edit all the talk of the servants out if needs be.

Child: all this seems to be calling for at least some missions straight from Khandr ie. "official things" to contact the brothers. I'll put a post into the thread where Fastarr suggests one possibility.

[Nogrod]

Mith: please when you post your gatecrashing post, remove the save and post it as a new one as I have already posted something that happens before the Elves get in...

EDIT: Lalaith has also posted things that happen before the elves come in...

[Nogrod]

Child: I had to use Khandr a little bit to not make it a pure monologue. I tried to make it as obvious as possible. If there is something you wish to change...

(And now I will stop this flood-posting)

[Folwren]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Foley: would you like to have a guy named Crogulf as Uldor's servant, even though he seems to be a drunkard spending his evenings at the Dragontail Inn when possible?

Of course we can edit all the talk of the servants out if needs be.

I think it's brilliant. When I read about him in your post on the game thread, my first thought was, "Golly, when Uldor finds out that Crogulf's been spreading talk and information about him when he's drunk, he's not going to be happy."

I don't know how much Crogulf will know of anything important, understand. He may not know too much. It depends on what sort of information you're expecting to get out of him. :P

Anguirel, as Uldor has been prodded into actually preparing the feast, I guess he can be the one who sends someone to invite the elves. Does CoD want to play the messenger?

-- Folwren

[CaptainofDespair]

Originally Posted by Folwren

Does CoD want to play the messenger?

Perhaps. I am getting involved with our dear Jord, as Durelin's last post indicated. If I can wrap that up fairly soon (which may take at least a week, given the amount of papers and reading that I must do for my courses) then I would certainly act as the messenger to the Elves.