Helm's Deep Query - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

MatthewM · 01-30-2007, 11:23 AM

It's funny you mention this, because I always wondered the same thing. The way they make it look in the movie gives Aragorn ample amounts of time to shoot and cut some Uruk down. Few arrows in the arsenal is a good point.

In the book Legolas runs out of arrows during this battle.

The Might · 01-30-2007, 12:08 PM

However this tactic of Aragorn is irreconcilable with another thing. We can see some archers sitting on the top of the tower of the Hornburg shooting far below. The chance to hit from there would be in my opinion pretty small, still they try. Perhaps an explanation is that since Aragorn no longer was there to command them the archers shot as much as they could.

FeRaL sHaDoW · 01-30-2007, 02:23 PM

sorry if this is off topic but why did they not bring more bombs??

Elmo · 01-30-2007, 02:25 PM

cause then the bad guys would have won!!!

FeRaL sHaDoW · 01-30-2007, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by hewhoarisesinmight

cause then the bad guys would have won!!!

aragon: Haldir fall back!!!!!
Haldir: okay ill be right ......
BOOOOOOOM
(Haldir) gets blowen away

I quess the bad guys would win...

mhagain · 01-30-2007, 02:45 PM

I think the reason might be a homage to Bashki. Similar stuff happens in his movie (though in a different scene).

What an odd thing to do, if it is...

Knight of Gondor · 02-03-2007, 08:35 PM

The tactic was the same in the books. The uruks arrived and began pouring arrows onto and into the Helm's Deep, "but from behind the walls came no reply." I am guessing the reason was two-fold.

First, that despite the fact that thousands of heavily-armed uruk-hai were marching on their fortress, having burned and pillaged as they came, there was a policy of not initiating the attack.

Second, the more practical reasons of not wasting arrows, and waiting for good light and distance to make better use of them.

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Originally Posted by hewhoarisesinmight

Didn't one of those old guys shoot an orc and he was practically admonished!

For firing without orders from his king or general(s).

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Originally Posted by FeRaL sHaDoW

sorry if this is off topic but why did they not bring more bombs??

The technology wasn't so easy in Middle-Earth as it is here. They had, what? two? three? bombs at best. The bombs were filled with the concoction, which must have taken Saruman a long time to brew, so those bombs in and of themselves were quite an accomplishment.

01-30-2007, 11:23 AM	#1
MatthewM Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New York Posts: 628	It's funny you mention this, because I always wondered the same thing. The way they make it look in the movie gives Aragorn ample amounts of time to shoot and cut some Uruk down. Few arrows in the arsenal is a good point. In the book Legolas runs out of arrows during this battle. __________________ "Loud and clear it sounds in the valleys of the hills...and then let all the foes of Gondor flee!" -Boromir, The Fellowship of the Ring

01-30-2007, 12:08 PM	#2
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	However this tactic of Aragorn is irreconcilable with another thing. We can see some archers sitting on the top of the tower of the Hornburg shooting far below. The chance to hit from there would be in my opinion pretty small, still they try. Perhaps an explanation is that since Aragorn no longer was there to command them the archers shot as much as they could. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

01-30-2007, 02:23 PM	#3
FeRaL sHaDoW Wight Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 232	sorry if this is off topic but why did they not bring more bombs?? __________________ God created night, but man created darkness....

01-30-2007, 02:25 PM	#4
Elmo Pittodrie Poltergeist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: trying to find that warm and winding lane again Posts: 633	cause then the bad guys would have won!!! __________________ As Beren looked into her eyes within the shadows of her hair, The trembling starlight of the skies he saw there mirrored shimmering.

01-30-2007, 02:45 PM	#6
mhagain Wight Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: The best seat in the Golden Perch Posts: 219	I think the reason might be a homage to Bashki. Similar stuff happens in his movie (though in a different scene). What an odd thing to do, if it is...