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Legate of Amon Lanc · 01-29-2007, 11:18 AM

I'd say the Great Lake around the island of Almaren.

The Might · 01-29-2007, 11:21 AM

I really have to find better ones...

Legate of Amon Lanc · 02-02-2007, 02:25 PM

I'm as dark as night,
I run far from light,
spell is upon me
as you will now see.
You'll beat me, I know
but I bring the woe:
your friend is now lost,
but that was the cost.

Well, this is not one of my "standard" riddles (not so specific), but I try to put in whatever comes to my mind so that you don't have to wait too long. I hope you enjoy it.

Gil-Galad · 02-02-2007, 07:00 PM

Sounds like the Nazgultoo me...

Legate of Amon Lanc · 02-03-2007, 02:08 AM

In the case of this riddle, you should also clarify what do you think the riddle parts refer to...

...for others: by this, I am not saying that Gil-Galad is right, you can keep trying...

...actually, let's make this clear: Gil-Galad is not right

I expected the Nazgul to be among the first guesses, but it's not right. But furthermore, please, try to be more specific of what do you think the riddle refers to (e.g. "I am dark as night = Nazgul is really dark"). Then I could easily explain to you why you are wrong

Gil-Galad · 02-03-2007, 12:24 PM

well i thought it was obvious at how the nazgul could relate and it did not need explaining, but if you need it legate then i guess i have too

I'm as dark as night, - nazgul is dark
I run far from light, - nazgul is scared by gandalfs light of istari
spell is upon me - bound by the ring
as you will now see. - they serve sauron, all see it
You'll beat me, I know - they get killed but coem back
but I bring the woe: - they hunt down anyone in their way
your friend is now lost, - use to be kings of men
but that was the cost. - cost of losing their soul

now for my second guess, i'm going with Sauron

I'm as dark as night, - Sauron has always been referred to as dark
I run far from light, - escaped when Valar came
spell is upon me - bound by the one rin
as you will now see. - his spirit( great eye) lingers
You'll beat me, I know - lidless eye sees all?
but I bring the woe: - causes greif to other "good" kingdoms
your friend is now lost, - was once a maiar of Aule
but that was the cost. - left his past life to join Melkor

Legate of Amon Lanc · 02-03-2007, 12:58 PM

Oh, one thing first - if you are bothered, Gil-Galad, you don't have to put the exegesis in here, only if you wanted me to show you on this why your answer is wrong - it would be a bonus for you, not for me, since you could possibly learn from the mistakes you made. And I could also get a better picture of what you are stuck at if I wanted to post a hint.

Second, you made another valiant attempt, but again, sorry, Sauron is not the right answer. I think the error you made in both your guesses was not to take the riddle as a whole. If you rewrite it into prose, these are actual sentences spoken out by the "answer". I might include a hint in this place - the "answer" talks to "you": and this "you" is the same "you" in the whole riddle. Thus, if, according to your second explanation, "your friend is now lost" would mean Sauron as Aulë's friend, then e.g. the line "you'll beat me, I know" would also have to refer to Aulë. And as far as we know, it was not Aulë who has beaten Sauron (not even during the War of Wrath).

Anyway, keep trying, the riddle, in the end, is not very hard... or at least I think so

01-29-2007, 11:18 AM	#1
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	I'd say the Great Lake around the island of Almaren. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

01-29-2007, 11:21 AM	#2
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	I really have to find better ones... __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

02-02-2007, 02:25 PM	#3
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	One more to go... I'm as dark as night, I run far from light, spell is upon me as you will now see. You'll beat me, I know but I bring the woe: your friend is now lost, but that was the cost. Well, this is not one of my "standard" riddles (not so specific), but I try to put in whatever comes to my mind so that you don't have to wait too long. I hope you enjoy it. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

02-02-2007, 07:00 PM	#4
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	Sounds like the Nazgultoo me... __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

02-03-2007, 02:08 AM	#5
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	In the case of this riddle, you should also clarify what do you think the riddle parts refer to... ...for others: by this, I am not saying that Gil-Galad is right, you can keep trying... ...actually, let's make this clear: Gil-Galad is not right I expected the Nazgul to be among the first guesses, but it's not right. But furthermore, please, try to be more specific of what do you think the riddle refers to (e.g. "I am dark as night = Nazgul is really dark"). Then I could easily explain to you why you are wrong __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

02-03-2007, 12:24 PM	#6
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	sigh... well i thought it was obvious at how the nazgul could relate and it did not need explaining, but if you need it legate then i guess i have too I'm as dark as night, - nazgul is dark I run far from light, - nazgul is scared by gandalfs light of istari spell is upon me - bound by the ring as you will now see. - they serve sauron, all see it You'll beat me, I know - they get killed but coem back but I bring the woe: - they hunt down anyone in their way your friend is now lost, - use to be kings of men but that was the cost. - cost of losing their soul now for my second guess, i'm going with Sauron I'm as dark as night, - Sauron has always been referred to as dark I run far from light, - escaped when Valar came spell is upon me - bound by the one rin as you will now see. - his spirit( great eye) lingers You'll beat me, I know - lidless eye sees all? but I bring the woe: - causes greif to other "good" kingdoms your friend is now lost, - was once a maiar of Aule but that was the cost. - left his past life to join Melkor __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

02-03-2007, 12:58 PM	#7
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Oh, one thing first - if you are bothered, Gil-Galad, you don't have to put the exegesis in here, only if you wanted me to show you on this why your answer is wrong - it would be a bonus for you, not for me, since you could possibly learn from the mistakes you made. And I could also get a better picture of what you are stuck at if I wanted to post a hint. Second, you made another valiant attempt, but again, sorry, Sauron is not the right answer. I think the error you made in both your guesses was not to take the riddle as a whole. If you rewrite it into prose, these are actual sentences spoken out by the "answer". I might include a hint in this place - the "answer" talks to "you": and this "you" is the same "you" in the whole riddle. Thus, if, according to your second explanation, "your friend is now lost" would mean Sauron as Aulë's friend, then e.g. the line "you'll beat me, I know" would also have to refer to Aulë. And as far as we know, it was not Aulë who has beaten Sauron (not even during the War of Wrath). Anyway, keep trying, the riddle, in the end, is not very hard... or at least I think so __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories