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Amras Oronar · 01-07-2007, 12:40 PM

Hail Thinlómien, I mean, of how many Humans is there actually described that they are fat? perhaps there are fewer elves but...

Mithalwen · 01-09-2007, 12:10 PM

Forlong of Gondor, and Barliman Butturbur are described as fat and it is only the humans and Gollum (to whom everyone else no doubt appeared fat ) who are disparaging about fatness. In fact the wordt offender is Aragorn who is really quite offensive to Butturbur.

A degree of roundness was clearly considered normal and healthy in a hobbit - as a selfsufficient community vulnerable to the vagaries of harvest an efficient metabolism was an advantage....

And the elves did work according to LACE...... and apart from bread making the cooking was done by men in the main ( some strange intuition tells me barbecuing featured heavily - maybe that is the reason Celebrian shipped out early.... she grew and washed the salads, gathered up the ingredients , cutlery, crockery, made sure there was enough charcoal, rounded up the the kids and later did the washing up - and Elrond just prepares his "special" marinade using every bowl and chopping board in the kitchen), throws the meat on the grill and wonders why Celebrian isn't grateful for him doing the cooking ....

). In fact the reason that elf women developed Lembas as a complete source of nutrition was probably as a necessary response to male elf cookery.....

Holbytlass · 01-09-2007, 12:35 PM

Oh my gosh, I married an elf!! BTW, what does LACE mean?

Were the elves a slender as we envision? I think we see them by today's standard (even Tolkien in his own day) and visualiaze them very thin. But truly in "their time" (centuries ago being a "history") they may not have been.
Their society was a prosperous one, plenty of food and especially for the "royalty" (Elrond, Galdriel etc) plenty of others to do the work for them. As a sign of wealth people had a bit of fat on them-certainly not the skeletal-thin looks of those with not alot to eat.

Mithalwen · 01-09-2007, 12:44 PM

LACE is the acronym for "The laws and customs of the Eldar"
an essay in Morgoth's Ring (History of Middle Earth).

Lalwendë · 01-09-2007, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mithalwen

In fact the reason that elf women developed Lembas as a complete source of nutrition was probably as a necessary response to male elf cookery.....

Maybe Lembas was a kind of Galaxy or Green and Blacks chocolate developed by Elven women as a comfort food to stuff their faces with after facing all that washing up left behind by the Barbecue binges of the men?

Holbytlass · 01-25-2007, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Lalwendë

Maybe Lembas was a kind of Galaxy or Green and Blacks chocolate developed by Elven women as a comfort food to stuff their faces with after facing all that washing up left behind by the Barbecue binges of the men?

I have to respectfully disagree with the lembas being a kind of chocolate theory only for the fact (according to movie Legolas) that one bite is enough to go on(something of that nature) and I can never stop at one bite of chocolate

thanks for the explanation, Mith.

Eönwë · 05-21-2008, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Holbytlass

I have to respectfully disagree with the lembas being a kind of chocolate theory only for the fact (according to movie Legolas) that one bite is enough to go on

In Mexico in the Mayan time chocolate was used as an energy drink. And just one sip could keep even a warrior going for a day. Or maybe thats more like the drink the hobbits are given lotr (I forget its name).

01-09-2007, 12:10 PM	#2
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Forlong of Gondor, and Barliman Butturbur are described as fat and it is only the humans and Gollum (to whom everyone else no doubt appeared fat ) who are disparaging about fatness. In fact the wordt offender is Aragorn who is really quite offensive to Butturbur. A degree of roundness was clearly considered normal and healthy in a hobbit - as a selfsufficient community vulnerable to the vagaries of harvest an efficient metabolism was an advantage.... And the elves did work according to LACE...... and apart from bread making the cooking was done by men in the main ( some strange intuition tells me barbecuing featured heavily - maybe that is the reason Celebrian shipped out early.... she grew and washed the salads, gathered up the ingredients , cutlery, crockery, made sure there was enough charcoal, rounded up the the kids and later did the washing up - and Elrond just prepares his "special" marinade using every bowl and chopping board in the kitchen), throws the meat on the grill and wonders why Celebrian isn't grateful for him doing the cooking .... ). In fact the reason that elf women developed Lembas as a complete source of nutrition was probably as a necessary response to male elf cookery..... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace Last edited by Mithalwen; 01-09-2007 at 12:42 PM.

01-09-2007, 12:35 PM	#3
Holbytlass Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Party Tree Posts: 1,042	Oh my gosh, I married an elf!! BTW, what does LACE mean? Were the elves a slender as we envision? I think we see them by today's standard (even Tolkien in his own day) and visualiaze them very thin. But truly in "their time" (centuries ago being a "history") they may not have been. Their society was a prosperous one, plenty of food and especially for the "royalty" (Elrond, Galdriel etc) plenty of others to do the work for them. As a sign of wealth people had a bit of fat on them-certainly not the skeletal-thin looks of those with not alot to eat. __________________ Holby is an actual flesh-and-blood person, right? Not, say a sock-puppet of Nilp’s, by any chance? ~Nerwen, WWCIII

01-09-2007, 12:44 PM	#4
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	LACE is the acronym for "The laws and customs of the Eldar" an essay in Morgoth's Ring (History of Middle Earth). __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

01-07-2007, 12:40 PM	#1
Amras Oronar Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Zoetermeer Posts: 29	Hail Thinlómien, I mean, of how many Humans is there actually described that they are fat? perhaps there are fewer elves but...