Most Tragic Moment? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Boromir_bg · 01-02-2007, 08:48 AM

Yeah,you're probably right.I didn't feel sad when the Uruk-Hais killed in the book.Maybe I felt sad about Boromir in the movie because Sean Bean is one of my favorite actors after "Sharp's rifles".

The Might · 01-02-2007, 10:32 AM

I always thought that Turin had the most tragic fate in the books...I always found it sad how his life ended and the irony of fate...master of doom by doom mastered indeed

in the films, I always found Haldir's death the most tragic moment, with him looking at all the other dead Elves before he died

Tuor in Gondolin · 01-02-2007, 10:50 AM

I don't have "Letters" with me at the moment, but I think
Tolkien concurs that perhaps the most tragic moment in
LOTR (at least) is when Gollum almost repents but is
dissuaded by Sam's (granted well-meaning) intervention.

Amras Oronar · 01-02-2007, 12:33 PM

Yes the gollum story is very tragic indeed, Frodo finally get's a bit of hope, but then by a misunderstanding Gollum turns all evil again and everything almost fails, I also pitie Frodo soooo much in the bit where he doesn't realize Gollum is against him and trying to get rid of Sam...

Elladan and Elrohir · 01-02-2007, 03:02 PM

I don't think Boromir's death is at all tragic, either in the movies or the book. He earns a noble and honorable death, atoning for his seduction by the Ring. "I am sorry. I have paid." Sad that he dies, sure. Not tragic.

Well, actually, according to the Princeton glossary I can access from my cell phone, tragic means "very sad; especially involving grief or death or destruction". So by that definition, it is tragic. But to me, the word tragic implies a lot more than merely "very sad."

Perhaps this term we must also define.

01-02-2007, 08:48 AM	#1
Boromir_bg Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 16	Yeah,you're probably right.I didn't feel sad when the Uruk-Hais killed in the book.Maybe I felt sad about Boromir in the movie because Sean Bean is one of my favorite actors after "Sharp's rifles". __________________ The Pride of Gondor!

01-02-2007, 10:32 AM	#2
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	I always thought that Turin had the most tragic fate in the books...I always found it sad how his life ended and the irony of fate...master of doom by doom mastered indeed in the films, I always found Haldir's death the most tragic moment, with him looking at all the other dead Elves before he died __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

01-02-2007, 10:50 AM	#3
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	I don't have "Letters" with me at the moment, but I think Tolkien concurs that perhaps the most tragic moment in LOTR (at least) is when Gollum almost repents but is dissuaded by Sam's (granted well-meaning) intervention. __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

01-02-2007, 03:02 PM	#5
Elladan and Elrohir Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Halls of Mandos Posts: 332	I don't think Boromir's death is at all tragic, either in the movies or the book. He earns a noble and honorable death, atoning for his seduction by the Ring. "I am sorry. I have paid." Sad that he dies, sure. Not tragic. Well, actually, according to the Princeton glossary I can access from my cell phone, tragic means "very sad; especially involving grief or death or destruction". So by that definition, it is tragic. But to me, the word tragic implies a lot more than merely "very sad." Perhaps this term we must also define. __________________ "If you're referring to the incident with the dragon, I was barely involved. All I did was give your uncle a little nudge out of the door." THE HOBBIT - IT'S COMING

01-02-2007, 12:33 PM	#4
Amras Oronar Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Zoetermeer Posts: 29	Yes the gollum story is very tragic indeed, Frodo finally get's a bit of hope, but then by a misunderstanding Gollum turns all evil again and everything almost fails, I also pitie Frodo soooo much in the bit where he doesn't realize Gollum is against him and trying to get rid of Sam...