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Nogrod · 12-29-2006, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holbytlass

one said aloud to be more heard
"Will the Fenris wolf step forward?"

Just a moment. This is from Holby's first post. Is there a Fenris wolf still among us living? I mean someone who has been a wolf and Died on Day1 lynching? This could be acobbler trying to contact her wolf (if there actually is one Fenris around)? Any knowledge?

Holbytlass · 12-29-2006, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Just a moment. This is from Holby's first post. Is there a Fenris wolf still among us living? I mean someone who has been a wolf and Died on Day1 lynching? This could be acobbler trying to contact her wolf (if there actually is one Fenris around)? Any knowledge?

Good grief, I hope not because that was done in jest and song.

I can see where each of you look wolvish. And my head is spinning.

Macaulare with the plausible (to me) bluff of distancing himself from Celuien.

Lalwende with being on the quiet side-does put forth theories and ideas but has a 'newbie shield' that would be good protection for a wolf

Farael with turning topic from wolf hunting to getting rid of quiets

Cailin is definitely under the radar, did someone actually not know she was playing?!

Nogrod just by being cool and collected-a bit 'too good to be true' sort of thing

Macaulare
Cailin
Lalwende
Farael
Nogrod

That's my list in order of most suspicious on down

Nogrod · 12-29-2006, 10:21 AM

Well, I must confess that I didn't become much wiser by looking at Holby. The only one thing that actually caught my eye looked cobblerish and is somewhat interesting if you look at the target. [QUOTE#43] Macalaure, good thing we can read minds like the elves otherwise by the very nature of your chosen occupation you would say the least and be the first to die[/QUOTE]But careful, yes. That she has been and as Cailín suggested, most similar to the way Celuien played: not saying much, avoiding all things controversial - and as I'm getting the "vibes" now, going with the current winds. Who knows?

But this I think is even more interesting. I didn't remember this: [QUOTE#310] ABOUT FOLWREN
Has this bit of a backandforthbanter with Farael
They vote for each other on day one
Folwren keeps voting for Farael in safe voting positions[/QUOTE]What I mean? When there are less people around it is quite important to have such ones around who do not consistently vote or suspect you. Also it is imperative to not raise too much discomfort around with others (as they might vote you). It's so neat a balance now that one bad feeling of someone wishing to try you out may result in that person getting one's vote - even if that is done in good faith to help see who's actually furry or not.

So Farael actually could be the wolf too. A bit reckless, possibly, but that is a good cover also.

Nogrod · 12-29-2006, 10:29 AM

Okay. My top three now for lycantrophy.

Mac: killed a fellow to gain trust, wishes us to go for a cobbler or a double-lynch instead of the wolf, strongly covered by Farael (who then might be the cobbler). A strong suspicion. I kind of believe he's the one we should go for.

Farael: trying to lead us astray all the time and lately trying to play like a cobbler as we have been of the opinion that we should not waste our lynches on cobblers... If Mac is innocent, then it might be Farael.

Holby: for playing like Celuien; easily, nonconfrontationally = safely. Not a good case, but a possible one.

Nogrod · 12-29-2006, 10:40 AM

Everyone holding back now? Let's be careful with the last minute frenzy as the cobblers are around. They - and the wolf - would love the confusion.

++ Macalaure

Given with hopeful confidence.

Mac --> Holby
Holby --> Mac
Nogrod --> Mac (Holby1, Mac2)

Three left.

Cailín · 12-29-2006, 10:40 AM

Your suspects are similar to mine, Nogrod. I suspect Farael the most (of both wolvery and cobblery), with Macalaure as a secondary wolf-candidate (though I suspect him more of cobblery than wolvishness). Lalwende and Holbytlass I am just too unsure about - though I think Holbytlass marginally more suspicious than Lalwende, purely based on general behaviour - and my trust in you has not completely vanished.

Farael not posting makes me even more suspicious. I am expecting him to jump in at the last moment to attempt to save himself or his wolf.

Nogrod · 12-29-2006, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cailín

Farael not posting makes me even more suspicious. I am expecting him to jump in at the last moment to attempt to save himself or his wolf.

That's what I'm afraid of too...

Farael · 12-29-2006, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cailín

Farael not posting makes me even more suspicious. I am expecting him to jump in at the last moment to attempt to save himself or his wolf.

Funny thing, I just got here... I've got to read all that was said since my last post, and I'm preparing lunch while I'm at it for me and my sister.

I'll try to get back with a vote.

Cailín · 12-29-2006, 10:46 AM

Cross-posted with Nogrod there. I am tempted to hold back indeed, as I fear the cobblers may be retracting, revoting and all that evilness during the last few minutes. I am also worried that if I add a vote for Farael now, a wolf or cobbler may jump up in happiness and seize the opportunity to clinch a double lynch.

The only way to avoid this seems to be...

++ Macalaure

He was not my first candidate, as I still cannot fully believe he is a wolf, but I am nearly certain that he is indeed a cobbler. This will at least buy us another day and two telling deaths.

Farael · 12-29-2006, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cailín

He was not my first candidate, as I still cannot fully believe he is a wolf, but I am nearly certain that he is indeed a cobbler. This will at least buy us another day and two telling deaths.

Answering this before I have a chance to read all that was said

Let's suppose that (as I'm fairly sure) Macalure is a cobbler

Tonight odds are the wolf gets an ordo so we are left with

Wolf
Cobbler
Two ordos

Tomorrow if we kill anyone but the wolf, the game is over since:
If we kill an ordo there's only one ordo and two baddies left
If we kill the cobbler, the wolf kills an ordo at night, thus we are left with wolf and ordo the following day.

Therefore I find your vote rather suspicious... killing Macalure does NOT give us another day.

This is a wasted kill, but right now I've got no-one better to propose so I'll go read and pray that you guys are still around if there's a better person for lynching

Holbytlass · 12-29-2006, 10:23 AM

++Macaulare

12-29-2006, 10:40 AM	#5
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Everyone holding back now? Let's be careful with the last minute frenzy as the cobblers are around. They - and the wolf - would love the confusion. ++ Macalaure Given with hopeful confidence. Mac --> Holby Holby --> Mac Nogrod --> Mac (Holby1, Mac2) Three left. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

12-29-2006, 10:23 AM	#11
Holbytlass Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Party Tree Posts: 1,042	++Macaulare __________________ Holby is an actual flesh-and-blood person, right? Not, say a sock-puppet of Nilp’s, by any chance? ~Nerwen, WWCIII

12-29-2006, 10:21 AM	#3
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Well, I must confess that I didn't become much wiser by looking at Holby. The only one thing that actually caught my eye looked cobblerish and is somewhat interesting if you look at the target. [QUOTE#43] Macalaure, good thing we can read minds like the elves otherwise by the very nature of your chosen occupation you would say the least and be the first to die[/QUOTE]But careful, yes. That she has been and as Cailín suggested, most similar to the way Celuien played: not saying much, avoiding all things controversial - and as I'm getting the "vibes" now, going with the current winds. Who knows? But this I think is even more interesting. I didn't remember this: [QUOTE#310] ABOUT FOLWREN Has this bit of a backandforthbanter with Farael They vote for each other on day one Folwren keeps voting for Farael in safe voting positions[/QUOTE]What I mean? When there are less people around it is quite important to have such ones around who do not consistently vote or suspect you. Also it is imperative to not raise too much discomfort around with others (as they might vote you). It's so neat a balance now that one bad feeling of someone wishing to try you out may result in that person getting one's vote - even if that is done in good faith to help see who's actually furry or not. So Farael actually could be the wolf too. A bit reckless, possibly, but that is a good cover also. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

12-29-2006, 10:29 AM	#4
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Okay. My top three now for lycantrophy. Mac: killed a fellow to gain trust, wishes us to go for a cobbler or a double-lynch instead of the wolf, strongly covered by Farael (who then might be the cobbler). A strong suspicion. I kind of believe he's the one we should go for. Farael: trying to lead us astray all the time and lately trying to play like a cobbler as we have been of the opinion that we should not waste our lynches on cobblers... If Mac is innocent, then it might be Farael. Holby: for playing like Celuien; easily, nonconfrontationally = safely. Not a good case, but a possible one. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

12-29-2006, 10:40 AM	#6
Cailín Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lurking in the shadows. Posts: 711	Your suspects are similar to mine, Nogrod. I suspect Farael the most (of both wolvery and cobblery), with Macalaure as a secondary wolf-candidate (though I suspect him more of cobblery than wolvishness). Lalwende and Holbytlass I am just too unsure about - though I think Holbytlass marginally more suspicious than Lalwende, purely based on general behaviour - and my trust in you has not completely vanished. Farael not posting makes me even more suspicious. I am expecting him to jump in at the last moment to attempt to save himself or his wolf.

12-29-2006, 10:46 AM	#9
Cailín Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lurking in the shadows. Posts: 711	Cross-posted with Nogrod there. I am tempted to hold back indeed, as I fear the cobblers may be retracting, revoting and all that evilness during the last few minutes. I am also worried that if I add a vote for Farael now, a wolf or cobbler may jump up in happiness and seize the opportunity to clinch a double lynch. The only way to avoid this seems to be... ++ Macalaure He was not my first candidate, as I still cannot fully believe he is a wolf, but I am nearly certain that he is indeed a cobbler. This will at least buy us another day and two telling deaths.