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Old 12-19-2006, 02:57 PM   #1
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Lalwendė is battling Black Riders on Weathertop.Lalwendė is battling Black Riders on Weathertop.
Farael, being the naughty/nice Elf I know all too well how the naughty and the downright wicked can fly under the radar by doing their bad things in a sneaky fashion. They hope not to be noticed, but the eyes of the naughty/nice elf are always open and she is always alert. But some of them are wise to this so they bluster and shout in the vain hope of double bluffing and so still getting their undeserved gifts from dear old Father Christmas...

Now Folwren I agree often people bluster due to their nerves, but why are they nervous? Something to hide, eh?
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Old 12-19-2006, 03:08 PM   #2
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Now Folwren I agree often people bluster due to their nerves, but why are they nervous? Something to hide, eh?
The countess fixes her with a cold glance.

No. Not necessarily something to hide. Fear, maybe. There is a lot to fear when eternal death is threatened, would you not say?
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Old 12-19-2006, 03:17 PM   #3
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Cross posted with a few dancers.

There is hardly a pack of wolves to speak of, Rikae. There are two. And two Cobblers. Two cobblers who know who the wolves are. Torture is not need to kill the wolves, but perhaps it would be convenient* if we could find the cobblers.

I still do not think it is good to kill the silent ones. Be careful...if you must...consider how they usually are. Those with the habits of being silence and shy should not be killed for it.

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Old 12-19-2006, 03:20 PM   #4
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No. Not necessarily something to hide. Fear, maybe. There is a lot to fear when eternal death is threatened, would you not say?
The little Elf winks and skips about as she says:

"But those who have been good have nothing to fear!"
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Old 12-19-2006, 03:22 PM   #5
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I suggest we look for inconsistancy and convoluted reasoning, as these are the mark of a liar.
Indeed, though it was once said that a truly clever wolf would tell the truth, just not truths that would lead to the true identity of the wolves. That's the scariest thought of all!

If someone is obviously misleading and inconsistent, it's a red flag, but I think I tend to find extreme caution more alarming. With only two wolves against 13 dancers, the wolves have more to lose, numerically speaking, if one is caught. And the wolves are also the ones with a secret, so they have to be careful...
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Old 12-19-2006, 03:33 PM   #6
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I still do not think it is good to kill the silent ones. Be careful...if you must...consider how they usually are. Those with the habits of being silence and shy should not be killed for it.
True, but when usual quiet ones are afflicted with lupine tendencies then they are ready made to slip under the radar.
While I don't wish to see exclusive lynches of quiet ones, they are better to be dealt with sooner then later when, as others have stated, the end is near and barely a trail is there. Oh, gracious ladies and lords of the dance.
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Old 12-19-2006, 03:36 PM   #7
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True, but when usual quiet ones are afflicted with lupine tendencies then they are ready made to slip under the radar.
While I don't wish to see exclusive lynches of quiet ones, they are better to be dealt with sooner then later when, as others have stated, the end is near and barely a trail is there. Oh, gracious ladies and lords of the dance.
I can't believe I'm about to say this but... I.... erm... I.... agree with you Holbytlass. I think you explain in few words what I said in my last post. I also cross-posted with you, or else I would have saved myself the trouble of the last post.
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Old 12-19-2006, 03:37 PM   #8
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Perhaps you are right, Farael. Just perhaps. My aversion of your idea came when you mentioned it so early on.

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Old 12-19-2006, 03:45 PM   #9
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Indeed, though it was once said that a truly clever wolf would tell the truth, just not truths that would lead to the true identity of the wolves. That's the scariest thought of all!
Ah, but in this case, the avoidence of a topic or person will be the red flag.
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Old 12-19-2006, 03:53 PM   #10
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Ah, but in this case, the avoidence of a topic or person will be the red flag.
True enough.
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Old 12-19-2006, 03:30 PM   #11
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Farael, being the naughty/nice Elf I know all too well how the naughty and the downright wicked can fly under the radar by doing their bad things in a sneaky fashion. They hope not to be noticed, but the eyes of the naughty/nice elf are always open and she is always alert. But some of them are wise to this so they bluster and shout in the vain hope of double bluffing and so still getting their undeserved gifts from dear old Father Christmas...

Now Folwren I agree often people bluster due to their nerves, but why are they nervous? Something to hide, eh?
Lalwende, you seem to be trying to direct our attention to those at the extremes; while Nogrod and Folwren advise us to direct our attention toward the moderates and Farael wants to lynch the quiet ones.

As for myself, as I've said, I'm inclined to think posting volume is flimsy evidence in general.

Lal is, as far as we know, new to the game; her argument would seem to be logical reasoning for a newbie, but it could also be an attempt to shelter a moderate wolf. As she is a newbie, I'm inclined to believe the former for now.
Nogrod and Folwren are experienced, and state the obvious as is generally done on a first day (or dance). Of course, as vocal players, they also argue for their own innocence.
Farael's frustration with being left with the random choice between quiet players I understand, but it will doubtless mean lynching several innocents with no evidence against them. Later in the game, there will be some evidence even concerning the quiet players; everyone has to post daily, and their connections to known wolves/innocents will provide some sort of trail.
Celuien and Kath offer some day one randomness, and Holbytlass some poetry; both are safe posts, but so are Nogrod and Folwren's.

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Edit: Cross posted with Lalwende, Celuien and Folwren
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