The Hobbit in July 2007? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Lalaith · 11-21-2006, 03:52 AM

From the Guardian this morning:
http://film.guardian.co.uk/news/stor...952973,00.html

Rikae · 11-21-2006, 06:16 AM

Bear in mind, this most likely means not only no WETA, but no McKellen or Serkis, either. I predict an unwatchably awful Hobbit.

EDIT: Perhaps WETA will still be involved. From TORn:
"The severing of ties between PJ and New Line did not mean Weta was automatically barred from doing The Hobbit, according to Weta chief Richard Taylor."
http://www.theonering.net/index.shtml

Essex · 11-21-2006, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Rikae

Bear in mind, this most likely means not only no WETA, but no McKellen or Serkis, either. I predict an unwatchably awful Hobbit.

I'm not sure this would be true. as you said in your edit, weta might still be involved.

and why not mckellen or serkis? does an actor have to stay loyal to a director? no of course not. does jackson stay 'loyal' to actors by using them in each of his movies? of course he does not. ok, he used Serkis as Kong but that stands to reason. but he didn't use mckellen or anyone else in king kong. so why would that mean mckellen (or blanchett or elrond or Lee) not do the movie if it has another director?

perhaps serkis has some 'loyalty' to jackson, but I don't think jackson would mind if any of these actors took a part in a hobbit film with another director.

Lalwendë · 11-21-2006, 09:12 AM

Essex - spot on, no actor needs to feel any kind of obligation to Jackson and only star in a film he makes.

I actually think this could be a blessing in disguise. I did have reservations about the 'lighter' fare of The Hobbit in the hands of Jackson, and it gives us an opportunity to see a different (and quite possibly much better) script writing team take on the tale. The 'design' of the LotR films may well be able to remain intact from what's been said, which would be good as the art and design (along with the acting) was one of the best features of the LotR films.

I'm now much more interested than I previously was!

Gil-Galad · 11-21-2006, 09:34 AM

Actually, they are still making the hobbit, just that it looks like Jackson won't be directing it, New Line will find somebody else to take over. So the Hobbit is still in production but not under the reins of PJ.

Sir Kohran · 11-21-2006, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Gil-Galad

Actually, they are still making the hobbit, just that it looks like Jackson won't be directing it, New Line will find somebody else to take over. So the Hobbit is still in production but not under the reins of PJ.

I hope this isn't true...it just has to be Peter Jackson. I just can't see anyone recreating the Middle Earth he presented in LOTR...it would be like having someone else write the books other than Tolkien.

Rikae · 11-21-2006, 01:20 PM

Essex, yes, they wouldn't necessarily be out of the picture; however, that's the buzz on TORn, and on the Serkis fan forum I belong to. I would feel better about TH if I heard they would be involved.

SirK, I almost agree with you. Even though I read the books a good 15 years before the films came out, I feel Jackson's middle earth is the middle earth; the one I already saw in my mind's eye. While it's possible another director could do a decent job, I doubt that will actually happen and besides, I want to see TH set in PJ's world.

Furthermore, the whole situation sounds like New Line is up to no good, and I don't like to see them get away with it. I've seen how the film industry can be through my dad's and uncle's experiences (I'm not supposed to go into detail), and it's sickening.

11-21-2006, 03:52 AM	#1
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11-21-2006, 06:16 AM	#2
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	Bear in mind, this most likely means not only no WETA, but no McKellen or Serkis, either. I predict an unwatchably awful Hobbit. EDIT: Perhaps WETA will still be involved. From TORn: "The severing of ties between PJ and New Line did not mean Weta was automatically barred from doing The Hobbit, according to Weta chief Richard Taylor." http://www.theonering.net/index.shtml Last edited by Rikae; 11-21-2006 at 06:26 AM.

11-21-2006, 09:12 AM	#4
Lalwendë A Mere Boggart Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: under the bed Posts: 4,737	Essex - spot on, no actor needs to feel any kind of obligation to Jackson and only star in a film he makes. I actually think this could be a blessing in disguise. I did have reservations about the 'lighter' fare of The Hobbit in the hands of Jackson, and it gives us an opportunity to see a different (and quite possibly much better) script writing team take on the tale. The 'design' of the LotR films may well be able to remain intact from what's been said, which would be good as the art and design (along with the acting) was one of the best features of the LotR films. I'm now much more interested than I previously was! __________________ Gordon's alive!

11-21-2006, 09:34 AM	#5
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	Actually, they are still making the hobbit, just that it looks like Jackson won't be directing it, New Line will find somebody else to take over. So the Hobbit is still in production but not under the reins of PJ. __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

11-21-2006, 01:20 PM	#7
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	Essex, yes, they wouldn't necessarily be out of the picture; however, that's the buzz on TORn, and on the Serkis fan forum I belong to. I would feel better about TH if I heard they would be involved. SirK, I almost agree with you. Even though I read the books a good 15 years before the films came out, I feel Jackson's middle earth is the middle earth; the one I already saw in my mind's eye. While it's possible another director could do a decent job, I doubt that will actually happen and besides, I want to see TH set in PJ's world. Furthermore, the whole situation sounds like New Line is up to no good, and I don't like to see them get away with it. I've seen how the film industry can be through my dad's and uncle's experiences (I'm not supposed to go into detail), and it's sickening.