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Old 11-17-2006, 06:06 AM   #1
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Quadrupule posting...? Oh, my...

Ok.

The argument between CoD and Naria is too big for two wolves. Also, Naria votes CoD without knowing the situation (very dangerous for a wolf). Thirdly, Boro defends him too much. Besides, I don't think even Boro would so fiercely protect both his wolvish companion in the same day and even in the same sentence.
I think CoD's innocent, after all.

Farael I'm inclined to consider innocent too. He and Boro argue way too much to be companions in wolvery. And the whole interaction thing... I don't think he'd mess his fellow wolf in such business.

So, Valier or Volo?
It could be any of them, though I'm slightly more inclined to believe Volo guilty. Mostly because of he himself pointing out that he did not say a word about Naria while she was alive. First, who else than a wolf keeps any account of who he has spoken about? Can't think of anyone, Except the seer maybe, and we know Volo is no seer. And, why didn't he say a word about her when she was alive? Maybe because he didn't want to take sides considering his fellow wolf.

I'll vote about two hours from now and my vote will probably go to Volo, but a vote for Valier is certainly not an impossibility either.
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Old 11-17-2006, 08:04 AM   #2
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I can't believe I'm... cinqupule? fivble? fifthble? (any suggestions?) posting

Is the last battle of this village going to be one including a flood-posting Lommy and a bunch of mutes? I understand we all have different timezones and different amount of time to commit to ww, but this seems quite ridiculous. Besides me only Farael and Nogrod (who hopefully posts his borolysis soon) have posted. I'm glad they, at least, have. Doesn't look very good to me. In this phase only villains profit from silence. If I'm alive tomorrow, I will certainly remember that. Where's CoD who used to post at "dawn"? Where's Volo who has been able to post before the finnish afternoon before? Where's Valier? Truly, this village is probably driving me crazy. We need evidence to catch the wolf. We need analysis, discussion and theories to catch him/her. What we need the least is a cowardly silence.

Without further ranting

++Volo

I can't say he's overtly suspicious, but I can't say that of anyone else either. It's just that CoD and Farael look pretty innocent (not to mention our known innocent Nogrod), and Volo looks slightly more alarming than Valier. (Check my previous posts.)

But, really, do speak if you're not wolves or cravens. Or worst of all, cravens that suffer from lycantrophy.
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Old 11-17-2006, 08:14 AM   #3
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Last comment before I leave... Septuple posting?

Incriminating evidence: Volo has been online today, last an hour ago. But hasn't posted anything here!

Noggie's concentrating on the wrong ww...

Well, that's it before I leave. I hope I don't need to see you tomorrow, ie. I hope we lynch the last wolf today.

But I could echo what I said just a few minutes ago:
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But, really, do speak if you're not wolves or cravens. Or worst of all, cravens that suffer from lycantrophy.
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Old 11-17-2006, 08:16 AM   #4
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Just to inform you...

I need to get something to eat, but after that I will sit by my computer and read through Boro's posts precedeng yesterDay.

Let's go hunt one wolf!

That's heroic Lommy (if you're not a wolf) - that's almost as heroic (were you the last remaining lycanthrope)!
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Old 11-17-2006, 08:25 AM   #5
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Yes yes, I'm here, for once I have time to look through the game to find sense in something. Wouldn't want to die innocent the day I have time to write something...

EDIT: Nah, sorry, I forgot that I have to go out now. I hope that it won't take too much time and I'll post something with more sense later. Working on CoD right now, and he doesn't seem wolfish.
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Old 11-17-2006, 09:34 AM   #6
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Working on CoD right now, and he doesn't seem wolfish.
Just a really quick post, I have a lab report due this afternoon and I still have two little details to write. The introduction and the conclussion...

If CoD does not seem wolfish, why 'work' on him? I think we are fairly pressed to find whoever IS the wolf, we cannot possibly prove anyone to be innocent now that our Seer is dead, so we should try to find the guilty ones, not make cases for someone else's innocence.

That really seems wolfish to me, as the wolf (duh) knows that whoever he claims to be innocent WILL be innocent thus making him look good.
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Old 11-17-2006, 09:58 AM   #7
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I am sorry for not posting at 'dawn'. I felt that, considering what transpired the day before, I am more of a distraction than an aid.

Anywho, I am suspicious of Volo and Valier.

Volo, apparently, is doing what I am doing, in saying nothing of substance and being rather shifty (in my opinion, of course). I'm not sure whether we should lynch him first or not. Though I am all for lynching him.

Valier, on the other hand, has proven to be just as odd, in my mind. But I can't quite put my finger on it (I'd rather use the iron fist of justice, anyhow).

I'm torn, between these two. I'd very much like to get rid of both of them and see what happens. But since I can't, I'll probably side with Volo, who sits a bit more uneasily with me at this point.
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Old 11-17-2006, 10:31 AM   #8
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Borolysis under construction and coming soon. It's quite a job I must say but interesting things to follow...
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Old 11-17-2006, 11:07 AM   #9
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If CoD does not seem wolfish, why 'work' on him? I think we are fairly pressed to find whoever IS the wolf, we cannot possibly prove anyone to be innocent now that our Seer is dead, so we should try to find the guilty ones, not make cases for someone else's innocence.
You do have to "work" on someone to see if he/she is a wolf... And CoD was the person I chose to be the first.
Today is the first day I mind if I die or not, but don't you think that my last post yesterday would have been a good move from a wolf, who seem to be staying in the shadows otherwise... Ok, me noting that first does make it sound wolfish...
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Borolysis Part II

About Naria, his fellow wolf he said nothing before Day3 as Durelin questioned him on leaving her out from his analysis (he had a good explanation to it, though, but only said he would come to her in time...). After that “the Rune-theory” was proposed by Lommy. He went fiercly against it and tried to sway us to look otherwise eg. defended Naria without never kind of making any straight comments about her. In the end he somewhat half-heartedly said he would vote Naria before CoD, but would stick to Farael (or seemingly almost anyone else).

Nota bene. Another one he actually said nothing about was Valier. Probably (I’m not 100% sure but this is near the only thing at least – I’ll check it if I have time for it) the only thing on Valier was in #153 where he defended Valier’s reasoning concerning the Cobbler-Rune -theory.

What I mean here?

Farael he was attacking all the time, relentlessly. CoD he defended with the same vigour. Lommy too was in his posts every once in a while, going like an elevator up and down in suspicion. I’m bent to consider all three innocent as Boro is well aware of the fact that those who are talked of end up in the gallows more often than those we do not speak.

Volo he was also very quiet about. He did note that Volo was scary and baffling him. Somehow he also put Volo in the middle of the Rune-theory discussion but as soon drew him away from it. In the end he started voicing growing concern of him (even though with quite vague reasons).

What to make of it?

On the light of Boro’s posting (see: on the basis of his posting – there are other considerations too and I will go to them as soon as I can)

I’m pretty sure Farael is innocent, just because how relentlessly Boro attacked him.

Of the others I’m not so sure any more.

Lommy is hard to judge based on Boro’s posting but because she came up with the idea that in the end killed Naria and we can read Boro’s frustration with it, I might tend to believe her innocent too.

CoD I would think innocent rather than a baddie as he could be Boro’s innocent pal here. So Boro buying trust with someone who retaliates for every distrust? But this could actually be a great bluff too (a wolf highly defending another would be unheard of and nicely cleaning the other if one dies!).

Volo might be a wolf as he was considerably little mentioned in his posts and the mild suspicions were just enough to look earnest but not too damning. His last growing concern might have been a trick (as he saw that Naria was in trouble and he needed to distance himself from them both) or then not. I think there is no good evidence either way on Volo here.

Based on Boro’s posting Valier looks the most suspicious with similar pattern by Naria. Being silent about. No one can be sure though that Boro would treate both his fellows in villainy the same way...

But as I said, this according to Boro’s posting. I’ll go to other things soon...
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Old 11-17-2006, 11:34 AM   #11
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CoD

Day1

#3 His famous seerish in character talk.

#13 In character defending Durelin. Suggests to keep an eye on Farael and Durelin.

#37 Says in character that he’s innocent. Suspects Lommy.

#40 Good reasoning why he can’t be a cobbler, and he’s not. Suspects Naria, Nogrod, Durelin, Farael and Lommy.

#42 Tells that he was just going to keep an eye on Farael and Durelin, did he? Tells that he’s attacked just for being in character.

#49 Tells that his first post was just an in character post. Leaves Durelin and Farael because he doesn’t find anything needed saying about them.

#53 Once again tells that his first post was in character. Is suspicious of Naria, Lommy, Durelin and Farael. Says that he had reason to defend Durelin. Doesn’t suspect Durelin (?). Votes Lommy for voting CoD.

Day2

#81 Isn’t suspicious of Lommy anymore, because Lommy isn’t suspicious of CoD. Is suspicious of Durelin, because she suspects CoD.

#99 Agrees with Boromir’s reasonings about Gurthang being suspicious. The same thing about Lommy not being suspicious. Doesn’t find enough information about Naria and Farael to say anything.

#111 Doesn’t like Naria’s reasonless vote for him. Wants to vote either Gurthang or Naria.

#118 Votes Naria because she voted him without reason.

Day3

#134 Isn’t a cobbler. Suspects Naria because Rune voted her.

#137 Suspects Naria even more. Sees a pattern of killing the quiet.

#149 Calls Farael’s long CoD research ridiculous (I rather liked it). Is even more sure about lynching Naria.

#158 CoD makes this one rather interesting (to me): he tells that he’s playing by feeling, yes that doesn’t have much sense if we want to win, but that’s how an innocent not really caring would do. I don’t know if CoD cares but thins makes him feel innocent to me.

#170 Has to leave so votes Naria

#183 ”Go ahead and lynch me. But nothing under my rock will you find.”

Day4

#190 Wants to look at Farael, though Valier does present a tempting choise.

#192 Agrees with Nogrod about Boromir’s strange vote for Farael. Says that killing the quiet players would reveal the wolves too much (and is right with me being the last one of those).

#214 Votes known wolf Boromir and says that he won’t be putting anymore defenses on himself.

#218 Agrees with Valier that he won’t be defending himself because he can’t, nobody will believe.

#220 Either CoD is a really great wolf, he is innocent, proven by this post. Now this is how I feel, he neither had any hopes of surviving so far.

#229 Farael suspects CoD. CoD: ” You have two options: Take me at my word, and go on trying to find the last wolf, or lynch me and waste more time. The latter, of course, will spell your own doom.”

So:

This all CoD suspecting started from a really little mistake he made, that was a reason to be lynched on day one, but otherwise he doesn't seem wolf. He has been defending himself mostly and playing with feeling, not really caring if he died. He has sure said more than me, and maybe I say so about CoD as that is how I felt myself. I have thought about CoD being a wolf too for not having time for better thoughts, but now I think we both are innocent in a similar way.

Thanks for the Borolysis Nogrod. There is not a single time mentioned the word Valier in it and that is suspicious, of course Boromir is a skilled player and can bluff well, but... I'll read of Valier next.

EDIT: xd with Nogrod, that's what I'm also (trying to) saying
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