Saruman for or against Sauron?

[Kuruharan]

You are ignoring my line of reasoning in that paragraph

Mainly because I didn’t see your point or how it related to what we were talking about (still don’t really).

And exactly how militarily incapable do you think Sauron was during the Third Age? He successfully (and repeatedly) instigated mass invasions against his enemies from Angmar, in 1851 with the Wainriders, and in 2000 the Nazgul seized Minas Ithil. This all happened before the Ring was fished out of the bottom of the river and before he established himself in Mordor. Arnor was gone and Gondor was already weakening. The West’s military incapacity was something of long standing.

15th of march, 3019

I’ll go with this. From this date, the West couldn’t win militarily at this point because they did not have the resources to defeat Sauron in the showdown that would quickly follow. He had all the manpower and material superiority that he needed. Once he knew who the new ringlord was he would pounce. What could be simpler? The West did not have years for a new ringlord to build up. Weeks, or at most months, would be what they would be looking at and that would not do them any good because time was more a friend of Sauron than of them.

You are conveniently taking into consideration only a one-on-one battle.

And you are conveniently forgetting that Sauron’s armies would have been larger and there for the express purposes of dealing with the new ringlord’s army. Sauron would have done everything he could to force such a man-to-man confrontation because the odds would have been impossibly stacked in his favor.

why do you post then?

For the purpose of publicly disagreeing with ideas I think are ill-founded.