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alatar · 11-02-2006, 10:09 AM

Thanks everyone for the feedback. I'm still not sure if I whould have placed this thread elsewhere, as I'd like to comment on the Senator's use of Tolkien to describe the world. For instance, if the Iraq War were somehow the Eye of Sauron, exactly who would be Denethor? Wonder if the honorable Senator thought that one out?

Anyway, I also came up with a few more of my own, inspired by the ones above:

He eats orc flesh, I warrant!

Ask yourself: What will you do when the wild woods are suddenly at YOUR door?

Candidate Y actually *laughed* at the Gimli drinking scene... Is this the kind of person you want in Congress?

Elect me, and I will commission a blue-ribbon panel (made up of my relatives and other rogues ) to get to the bottom of the Gandalf versus the Witch-King question. No dollar will be left unturned in pursuit of the truth.

I found a Silmaril, helped Fëanor in his works, defeated Melkor in single combat, counselled Manwë, sent Gandalf, pushed Gollum, ...

**The Saucepan Man** · 11-02-2006, 11:03 AM

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I'm still not sure if I whould have placed this thread elsewhere, as I'd like to comment on the Senator's use of Tolkien to describe the world.

Leaving aside the (very) questionable portrayal of Iraq as a "diversion", it seems to me to be a curious comparison to liken the goal of diverting the attention of terrorists away from the US with the goal of saving the entirety of Middle-earth from unremitting and irresolute evil.

Those of us who regularly use the London Underground, for example, are only too aware that there are many places outside Iraq upon which the minds of terrorists remain fixed.

Anyway, be that as it may ...

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Candidate Y actually *laughed* at the Gimli drinking scene... Is this the kind of person you want in Congress?

Oy! What are you implying about people who laughed at the Gimli drinking scene ...?

My own contributions:

My dear voters. I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve ...

(Perhaps Donald Rumsfeld, with his known knowns, known unknowns etc studied the speeches of Bilbo Baggins …)

Do not meddle in the affairs of Candidate X for he is subtle and quick to anger.

Candidate Y looks fair and feels foul, if you get my meaning.

Go not to Candidate Z for counsel, for he will say both no and yes.

alatar · 11-02-2006, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man

Leaving aside the (very) questionable portrayal of Iraq as a "diversion", it seems to me to be a curious comparison to liken the goal of diverting the attention of terrorists away from the US with the goal of saving the entirety of Middle-earth from unremitting and irresolute evil.

Those of us who regularly use the London Underground, for example, are only too aware that there are many places outside Iraq upon which the minds of terrorists remain fixed.

It, of course, makes no sense, but then again, it did emanate from the mouth of a politician.

My guess is that it is thought that by having western troops in Iraq that the terrorists will go there more readily and easily than elsewhere. I really can't see that being analogous with the Eye's attention.

And note that I placed the thread here so that we could read the silliness of the comments and avoid a political discussion, as I'm not sure where that road would lead.

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Oy! What are you implying about people who laughed at the Gimli drinking scene ...?

coughs...eyes do a complete revolution in head...coughs Oh, nothing, nothing at all.

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My dear voters. I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve ...

(Perhaps Donald Rumsfeld, with his known knowns, known unknowns etc studied the speeches of Bilbo Baggins …)

Now that you mention it, that makes perfect sense!

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Do not meddle in the affairs of Candidate X for he is subtle and quick to anger.

Candidate Y looks fair and feels foul, if you get my meaning.

Go not to Candidate Z for counsel, for he will say both no and yes.

I'm half-tempted to match the phrases above with specific pols/candidates, but that surely would just lead to trouble. Some of you will probably make the same comparisons.

**The Saucepan Man** · 11-02-2006, 11:39 AM

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And note that I placed the thread here so that we could read the silliness of the comments and avoid a political discussion, as I'm not sure where that road would lead.

Quite so. Although it took as much will power as I could muster to restrict myself to those very mild comments ...

Still, you are right. Best leave it there.

alatar · 11-02-2006, 11:53 AM

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Quite so. Although it took as much will power as I could muster to restrict myself to those very mild comments ...

You too feel the temptation, much like Frodo felt with the One Ring.

Must...not...discuss...politics...pulls hand back from the keyboard.

11-02-2006, 10:09 AM	#1
alatar Doubting Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Heaven's basement Posts: 2,466	Thanks everyone for the feedback. I'm still not sure if I whould have placed this thread elsewhere, as I'd like to comment on the Senator's use of Tolkien to describe the world. For instance, if the Iraq War were somehow the Eye of Sauron, exactly who would be Denethor? Wonder if the honorable Senator thought that one out? Anyway, I also came up with a few more of my own, inspired by the ones above: He eats orc flesh, I warrant! Ask yourself: What will you do when the wild woods are suddenly at YOUR door? Candidate Y actually laughed at the Gimli drinking scene... Is this the kind of person you want in Congress? Elect me, and I will commission a blue-ribbon panel (made up of my relatives and other rogues ) to get to the bottom of the Gandalf versus the Witch-King question. No dollar will be left unturned in pursuit of the truth. I found a Silmaril, helped Fëanor in his works, defeated Melkor in single combat, counselled Manwë, sent Gandalf, pushed Gollum, ... __________________ There is naught that you can do, other than to resist, with hope or without it.