Tol-in-Gaurhoth XXV: All Star Crossed With Nowhere to Go

[Macalaure]

Funny to see that every time a were-creature dies, it does so by the loss of his/her lover.

So now it's 2 guys and 5 girls. I will take a very close look at Farael for this reason, but the probability that the last couple is female only is quite high. I would advise everybody to look close at Farael and me, but don't limit yourselves. Unless the ranger is successful, we have two more days to get the last lover pair. If you use these two days to kill me and Farael, the village loses.

Having said that, I hope Valier will elaborate on the why of her suspicions of yesterday. Valier's hunches are valuable if she's innocent, but we cannot verify that unless we lynch her. We could go by her hunch today and lynch her tomorrow if she was wrong, but I do not think this is a good strategy. I'd like to hear a little reason from Valier, and then we'll see.

Looking at Farael, why do you suggest to go for Rikae so early? The only other person to be so rash with this before was MormWolf. She seems to want to participate, but is hindered. If she doesn't show up today, then maybe we could try it this way and lynch her, but I think we should wait. As Valier said, Rikae is very valuable when actually around.

[Kath]

You know I can see the logic in lynching Rikae. We have had 2 Days now and she has only shown up just after the deadline each time I think. If this were any other game she would have been killed by modfire already. If she doesn't show up by around halfway through toDay with this long post she was promising then a lynch might be a good idea. However, this is only if we don't find a more suitable candidate.

Also, I'm not sure that we should focus on the males. It is quite likely that the last pair is female only although there is nothing to say that it isn't male/female or male/male for that matter. Whatever the case, we need to focus on the individuals.

That said, I think Mac is guilty. I don't know why though, it's just a feeling I got this morning. I'm going to go back through his posts later, see if I can work it out. I won't have that up for a while though.

[Rikae]

,I've finally untwisted myself and am able to participate - apparently just in time!

Farael looks very suspicious & has since day one, it appears. He does seem eager to shift the blame.
I don't think Mac is guilty, merely because he seems much the same as in the last game - logical, reasonable and full of flattery. Of course, Werebears are known for their honied tongues, so I wouldn't rule him out.
Kath, your post seems to cover all bases - very safe.

The long post I was composing yesterday mainly explained my suspicions of Morm, and is therefore, obviously, out of date. I'll be back after school (before 3 EST). That's a promise. (And what's that worth, the promise of a woman? You're very funny, Highness!)

[Macalaure]

Farael:

On the first day he goes straight after Holbytlass. I found it strange and weak-reasoned, but he turned out right. He repeats his suspicion several times and it attracts not few suspicion from others. What I'm asking myself is: is that how a lover would act? To be so outspoken with a point which is likely to not attract a huge followership? Hard to believe, but who knows. Maybe he thought he would look even more suspicious if he didn't act like that, because many here know how he usually plays.
Other than that he refuses to go for Lhuna, which would have been very transparent indeed. His vote for Menel is only logical.

Next day he keeps at Holby's neck, now with some better reasoning. Good. He becomes suspicious of mormegil because morm was still alive. Now we know morm really was evil, but I insist that his reasoning was bad. It seems like his intuition is sharp.
He defends himself and his arguments much more than the day before. I guess he realised just how close it was for him on day 1, or maybe his lover did.
He votes for Holbytlass, early, as he said before.

Today he's very proud he was right about mormegil. I'm not sure what to think of this. Telling everybody "Look! I was right about a wolf! I'm innocent!"? What would wonder me more is why it was Jenny that he and his lover killed and not morm himself, though it would explain his happiness today.
He's quick to suggest lynching Rikae.


I'm picking at bones.
Yes, Farael does behave a little weird, but that is said to be his style. I can find nothing which looks doubtlessly evil to me, just some things that are questionable, but not overly.
I'm afraid I think him innocent. I'll be interested if somebody else finds something I overlooked.

logical, reasonable and full of flattery

[Lhunardawen]

I'm here. Sorry for the non-vote yesterDay. I'll do what I can in the very limited time I have right now, and will be back to vote more than an hour before the Day closes tomorrow.

For starters:

I was flirting with the idea Farael presented about Rikae, being reminded by a wolf named malkatoj in a village of old, but it's nice to hear from you now, Rikae. At least if we'll lynch you it should be with reasons other than your absence.

And I still stand by what I said the first time that we shouldn't consider genders at all. Okay, the other pairs were male-female, but a female-female pair might be the crazy mod's () idea of a surprise this time. We'll be better off covering all bases and not being discriminating.

[Lhunardawen]

Okay, so morm killed Rune and Lommy. That means the remaining baddie killed Kitanna and Jenny. The question here now is why? And who would do it?

Both of them have been pretty vocal, though they both really didn't have very certain suspects before they died. Kitanna voted for Menel because nobody thus far had protected Farael, and thought he couldn't be the Lover in that case. Jenny voted for Valier because of her speechlessness, then the next day for Holby because she was acting weirdly. She also made an analysis of Mac, saying that he seemed careful but his being vocal yesterDay made her feel better.

I'm honestly not sure where this is supposed to go. But from past experience, I must say this is not looking good for Farael, in my perspective. Farael could have killed Kitanna, or as Lover prompted the Bear to do so, saying that it would be too obvious a set-up for him to be suspected to be behind it. It's a stretch, but it has happened before.

*yawn* It's seriously late over here already, and I'm sleepy. I hope some hours of sleep will help make things clearer for me. and more things said while I'm asleep to chew on when I wake up. I'll particularly be looking at Valier and Farael and Durelin, who has been quite dodgy as I see it. Good night everyone, play nice and don't fight.

*snores in a ladylike manner*

[Macalaure]

These are my current opinions.

Durelin: not sure, need to look at her again

Farael: more innocent than guilty

Kath: probably innocent

Lhuna: thought her innocent so far, but I'll have a second look at her

Rikae: one huge question mark

Valier: suspicious, but I'll wait for more input from her

Mac: as innocent as one does get


I will return later with some thoughts about Durelin and Lhuna.

[Lhunardawen]

Valier

post #27 - usual first Day post. Said the only thing to do is to sit, observe, and ponder things, and expressed reluctance to commit to a lynchee until she has thought things through. Hoped to be back with a plan to keep the village in its order, but that could be just an in-character statement.

post #42 - Suddenly voted for Jenny, with all previous thoughts (that of Farael, Mac, and Rune not looking suspicious, but just their first Day selves) forgotten. Might have seen it as a sign of sorts that Jenny suddenly posted with a vote for her just when she was looking for her. Whatever happened to thinking things through?

post #59 - Didn't think Menel or Rune were werecreatures, so she didn't vote for them. Why point that out? To make herself look good? Thought Farael acted a bit strange. Attributed her vote for Jenny to a "weird feeling."

post #105 - Asserted that her vote for Jenny was as random as everyone else's, and thought it funny that people would think it weird. Said she always posts on first Days with silly posts, and hates trying to be all serious.

Point is, it wasn't as random as she thinks. It's retaliatory. Whether or not it was her intention, that's how we see it.

post #106 - Defended her vote once and for all, and her early post on that Day. Thought Farael and Holby a Lover pair. Pointed out that Holby was the first to vote for her, and Farael's vote for Holby was risky, but she can see it from Farael. Thought Macalaure seems a bit agressive, and was almost certain that he is bad. Found Lhuna, Jenny, and Durelin a bit suspicious, but was not sure why. Thought Fin a confused ordo, and said all his points against her rather lame. Thought morm, Kath, Rikae, and Lommy ordos. Might vote for Farael or Holby.

post #111 - Voted for Holby. Said a tiny, mirthful threat should she be wrong.

Goodness, this is taking so long...but I'm still feeling a bit disturbed about you, Valier.

ToDay she thinks Farael and Mac the last werepair. Suspects Farael's "told you statement," but in my opinion she had one herself, though put differently, the Day before. Suspects Mac because she thinks he wants us not to look at him by telling us to do so, and he has a weak list of suspects. Thinks Kath, Lhuna, and Rikae innocent.

In my opinion, those were rather weak arguments against Farael and Mac. The length of her innocents list is disconcerting; I wonder if she knows that they're innocents for sure. On the whole, I am disturbed by her inconsistency, defensiveness, and by those teeny weeny threaty thingies. It seems to assert her knowledge of things, which is rather distracting because we certainly won't believe her, and puts them in a mirthful light. I hope we find a Werecreature/Lover in you.

++VALIER

[Diamond18]

The Elves arranged themselves in a circle around Valier, eyeing her with mistrust. Farael pulled out a straight jacket and wrestled Valier to the ground, where he put said straight jacket on her. Valier thrashed and and threatened to fix his little red wagon, but Lhuna rose sleepily from where she had been napping in a hammock, and taking her pillow, proceeded to smother the Arranger.

"Mmmmmph!" came Valier's muffled voice. "You guys just killed your Ranger! Look at Farael and Durelin when I'm gone!"

Then, choking on goose down, she expired.

~*~*~*~

The Living Elves:

Mac - Builder of Gibbets, unemployed for millennia
Kath - Flower Girl
Durelin - Lead Tragic Actor
Lhuna - Beautiful Girl with Sleeping Sickness
Farael - Patient suffering from Mad Elf Disease
Rikae - Contortionist

The Dead 'Uns

tgwbs - Tragic Elven Hero and Lover of Diamond - (co-mod) - Stabbed himself eight times and subsequently eaten by the Werebird

Diamond - Elven Maid - (mod) - Crushed in the embrace of the Werebear

Menel - Mad Scientist - (ordo) - Beaten with an undead leg and a chamber pot and stabbed with red hot tongs (Day 1)

Nogrod - a Smith of the Billmarins - (watcher) - Savagely murdered by the Werecat and devoured in the long grass (Night 2)

Arctic Storm - Raving Alcoholic, Resident Moocher, and Lover of Naria - (lover) - Devoured head first by the Werebird (Night 2)

Naria - Lemba Baker - (werecat) - Dashed out her brains on the Ringbearer's Rock (Night 2)

Kitanna - One Legged Chambermaid - (ordo) - Ripped in two by the Werebear (Night 2)

Rune - Humungous Fungus Grower - (ordo) - Minced up into fertilizer by the Werewolf (Night 2)

Holbytlass - Oliphaunt Whisperer and Lover of Fintaeph - (lover) - Burned at the stake (Day 2)

Fintaeph - Mutton Herder and Purveyor of Fine-Quality Undead Prosthetic Limbs - (werebird) - Died a fiery death trying to save his lover from the flames (Day 2)

Lommy - Ostrich Chaser - (ordo) - Lured into a dark alley and devoured by the Werewolf (Night 3)

JennyHallu - Countess and Lover of mormegil - (lover) - Ripped apart and scattered in countless pieces by the Werebear (Night 3)

Mormegil - City Street Cleaner - (werewolf) - Despaired and died amongst the shreds of his lover (Night 3)

Valier - Arranger - (ranger) - Smothered to death with a goosedown pillow (Day 3)

[Diamond18]

Kath did not want to get up and leave the safety of her home, but her moonflowers needed tending to, so she crept out into the garden under the silvery light of the full moon. "If I'm quiet," she thought, "they won't know I'm up and about...."

She snuck about with her watering can and garden shears, being very careful not to make too much noise. She thought she was doing very well, and was almost done when she heard the ominous twinkling of wind chimes. Gasping involuntarily, she looked wildly about. It was only the wind....

Or was it?

Suddenly, out from behind a forsythia bush, leapt the Werebear. Kath screamed, dropping the watering can. She waved the shears at the bear, crying, "Get away!" But the bear seized her arm and broke it off, tossing shears and limb aside. Kath fainted from pain and horror, and the bear dragged her limp body through the marigolds to devour it under the rose trellis.

Nearby, the Werebear's lover mused, "Would a Kath by any other name taste as sweet?"

~*~*~*~

The Living Elves:

Mac - Builder of Gibbets, unemployed for millennia
Durelin - Lead Tragic Actor
Lhuna - Beautiful Girl with Sleeping Sickness
Farael - Patient suffering from Mad Elf Disease
Rikae - Contortionist

The Dead 'Uns

tgwbs - Tragic Elven Hero and Lover of Diamond - (co-mod) - Stabbed himself eight times and subsequently eaten by the Werebird

Diamond - Elven Maid - (mod) - Crushed in the embrace of the Werebear

Menel - Mad Scientist - (ordo) - Beaten with an undead leg and a chamber pot and stabbed with red hot tongs (Day 1)

Nogrod - a Smith of the Billmarins - (watcher) - Savagely murdered by the Werecat and devoured in the long grass (Night 2)

Arctic Storm - Raving Alcoholic, Resident Moocher, and Lover of Naria - (lover) - Devoured head first by the Werebird (Night 2)

Naria - Lemba Baker - (werecat) - Dashed out her brains on the Ringbearer's Rock (Night 2)

Kitanna - One Legged Chambermaid - (ordo) - Ripped in two by the Werebear (Night 2)

Rune - Humungous Fungus Grower - (ordo) - Minced up into fertilizer by the Werewolf (Night 2)

Holbytlass - Oliphaunt Whisperer and Lover of Fintaeph - (lover) - Burned at the stake (Day 2)

Fintaeph - Mutton Herder and Purveyor of Fine-Quality Undead Prosthetic Limbs - (werebird) - Died a fiery death trying to save his lover from the flames (Day 2)

Lommy - Ostrich Chaser - (ordo) - Lured into a dark alley and devoured by the Werewolf (Night 3)

JennyHallu - Countess and Lover of mormegil - (lover) - Ripped apart and scattered in countless pieces by the Werebear (Night 3)

Mormegil - City Street Cleaner - (werewolf) - Despaired and died amongst the shreds of his lover (Night 3)

Valier - Arranger - (ranger) - Smothered to death with a goosedown pillow (Day 3)

Kath - Flower Girl - (ordo) - Devoured in her flower garden by the Werebear

[Lhunardawen]

Okay. This is the last Day, for good or ill. Good, if we lynch the Werebear or the Lover. Ill, if we don't. All they need is one vote for an innocent, and they will very easily jump to vote for that person. Game over. Naturally we'll all want to keep our votes as late as possible to make sure that we lynch the right person; I unfortunately, do not have that luxury, with the Day ending on a Sunday morning.

I'll be back within the hour for my vote. Early, I know, but this is all the time RL can give me. I will try my very best to make it count for the sake of our village.

[Lhunardawen]

I'll start with a post analysis of my biggest suspect, Farael.

#16 - Threatened Lhuna, considering that as the middle ground between distancing himself from her or saying she is innocent, both of which he perceived as Lover tactics. Fair enough, I suppose. He has had experience being a Lover, so he has an idea how it works. And we're really supposed to be suspicious of everyone in this game. But now that I think of it, it's a bit of an overreaction. It's a silly random vote, for goodness' sake.

Suspected Holby of werecreatureness for putting the villagers in categories. And she turns out to be a Lover, which is more or less the same thing in this game. He got a Day 1 hunch relatively right again.

#21 - Suspected Holby and Lommy of being Lovers, because the former "forgot" to add the latter to her list. Lommy pointing out that she had been missed was too innocent a behaviour, he said.

"...and those of you who know my playing style should do well in listening to me. It has been proven perilous for the ordos to ignore me."

I suppose he means that he normally gets first Day hunches right. Well, to be fair, it has happened twice (possibly more) before. And in one of those, he happened to have inside info. Now, even if he's a villain, he can't have inside info in this game. I just find it disturbing that he should say this, as though desperate to gain our trust.

#51 - Said he doesn't claim to be the Seer, and once again pointed out to his famed hunches. Would have almost voted for arcticstorm because of his erroneous claim that everyone voted for him because of Lhuna. Insisted on Holby's guilt. Twice told us to lynch him if we want to clear the air around him.

Another overreaction re arcticstorm.

#54 - Voted for Menel. Told the village to kill Holby for him should he die.

End of Day 1

#71 - Admitted that his self-preserving vote for Menel turned out to be an overkill, and was willing to take all the blame the village wants for it. Once again insisted on Holby's guilt because of her ill-explained vote. Suspected morm because he was still alive. And turns out to be right, again.

#74 - "...I will have to undergo a forced silence soon enough"

You know, there's something about him claiming to be dead soon each time, yet each Night he emerges unscathed. I can't quite put a finger to it, but it's really creeping me out.

A long post in which he once again insisted on Holby's guilt. He said too much here that I can only see being said by a genuine innocent, but we never know. Everyone can be sincere about wanting to get a suspicious person lynched, even villains, because they naturally want to be the last team standing.

#84 - Disagreed about killing all males, and this suggestion by Holby added to his doubts about her. He had good points, actually. Then again, he IS a male.

#91 - Voted for Holby. Thought morm sincere, but still wanted to keep an eye on him. Also thought Fintaeph sincere, and said that if he's a baddie he's doing an awfully good job at it.

End of Day 2

#116 - "I told you so" post about morm being a baddie. Considered having Rikae lynched for her silence.

The "I told you so" part irked me, honestly. Can't he just rejoice? Was that utterly necessary? As for lynching Rikae, it must be the effect of being in Werewolf XVI, and for that reason the suggestion made sense to me.

#124 - Suspected Valier with Jenny's death, and the fact that someone pointed out a possible Jenny-Valier pair the Day before.

#132 - Thought Kath may be sincere (in her assumption of a Mac-Farael pair) or may be up to something that Mac may be trying to get us off the trail. Thought Rikae defensive in going after him. Asked her if she's scared that we'll listen to him.

He has a point that Mac may be a villain. But what's that provocative statement to Rikae about?

#126 - Suspected a Valier-Rikae pair. That's how I understood the post.

#140 - Was quick to wonder if Valier would say that she is in love with someone. Really, all this forward-ness is making me uneasy.

#145 - The post to which Valier responded "Reactions to accusations tell all." Perhaps this is why she wanted us to look at him toDay.

"Hey, I may be bad for all you know, but then maybe you know better.... yet I'm still pretty proud of myself over my perfect record on first-day suspicions. Yes, it may be luck, but let me enjoy my fifteen minutes of sham... *ahem* fame.

Would you like your shoe with salt or perhaps mayo? I'm an ordo.... but I am getting even a stronger feeling you are not. I'd vote for you now, but why hurry?"

I don't understand why he had to point out his perfect record. And he's more sure of Valier's guilt because she suspected him? I don't get it.

#160 - Voted for Valier, said Rikae was a close second.

I already responded to this post.

Okay...so the Farael I know does do rather haphazard accusations, a fault we may attribute to a careless ordo or a bold villain. And he had been both in the past. There is nothing remarkably different in the way he plays now than before, apart from the fact that I don't think he ever "bragged" that he gets things right this way. This for me speaks against his favour.