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Itinerant Songster
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A very interesting topic! I've always loved discussing little details like this in The Lord of the Rings. Although I'm not completely sure where I stand in this, I am going to say that the glow is definitely connected somehow to the ghoulish Wight, as the similarities with the Dead Marshes, etc, have been pointed out.
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The Pearl, The Lily Maid
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I believe the green light is inextricably connected to the Wight, and not to the Ring.
And I can prove it: I call your attention to that classic documentary of paranormal phenomena and the investigation thereof: Ghostbusters. It is quite clear throughout the film that several of the ghastly creatures captured on film emanate a green light, which is simply the natural color of the phosphorescent ectoplasmic slime they produce.
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Haunting Spirit
Join Date: Oct 2006
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The green light in the barrow serves two purposes.
Green lights were in the late nineteenth century associated with ghostly visions and with the appearance of the dead. Consider this from Chapter 2 of Oscar Wilde’s The Canterville Ghost, published in 1887: Quote:
From “Unseen — Unfeared” by Francis Stevens (pseudonym for Gertrude Barrows Bennett, 1884-1939?), originally published in People's Favorite Magazine (10 February 1919), Quote:
It has been recently noted by Raynor elsewhere in the Forum that Tolkien had probably visited Wayland’s Smithy, a barrow predating the Anglo-Saxons that they attributed to their (Nordic) god Weyland the Smith. Wikipedia reports a Shropshire legend in its will-o-wisp article about a certain “Will the Smith” who is doomed to wander the earth with a coal he uses to lure travelers to their demise. You can read an excellent, short synopsis of the barrow and its history, and see a diagram of its layout here. Notice in this article that “an area of the burial chamber was known as snivelling corner,” reminiscent to me of Tolkien’s description of the wight after Frodo struck it with the sword he found: Quote:
Because it may have influenced Tolkien’s imagination of the barrow, here are images of Wayland’s Smithy in poor lighting and fog: ![]() ![]() Frodo was not seized with the other hobbits, but separately from them. They have already been captured and arrayed in the apparel of the dead buried in the tomb. The wight before it places its hands upon Frodo says to him, “‘I am waiting for you!’” Indeed it is, for we are told in Unfinished Tales, “The Hunt for the Ring”, that the Witch-king was responsible for sending the wights into the barrows after the Great Plague of III 1636, and that in September III 3018, when the Nine finally found “Shire” and prepared to flush out the Ring-bearer, Quote:
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Frodo and his burden were, I believe, what the wight wanted: whether the wight was conscious of the Ring or not, it obeyed its master, the Witch-king, and it recognized that Frodo was different from the other three hobbits, whom it sought to offer as human sacrifice to the Darkness (presumably Morgoth or Sauron). Had Frodo put on the Ring in the barrow, I do not believe he could have escaped: he would have seen the wight in the shadow-world as he later saw the five Nazgûl on Weathertop: the wight could have seized him then and there, and held him until the Witch-king arrived to retrieve his goodies. In fact, when Frodo awoke in safety in Rivendell, Gandalf told him (Fellowship of the Ring, “Many Meetings”): Quote:
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Wight
Join Date: Sep 2006
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Nice analysis Alcuin. Makes good sense to me.
I recall the line from Gandalf about the time in the Barrow as being the closest call of all. When I first read this, it didn't fully register why this would be the case, as compared to the attack on Weathertop or the race to the Ford of Bruinen, for example. But I think the key is in the Unfinished Tales (quoted above), where it is stated that the Wights were specifically roused by the Witch King. They were apparently on the lookout for the hobbits, or at least the Ring, and presumably Bombadil did not know this or he would not have sent them off by themselves. These Wights, at the behest of the Witch King, were apparently serving as reinforcements for the Nazgul... But yes, clearly the Wight was after the Ring, which seems not to have anything to do with the greenish light... |
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Doubting Dwimmerlaik
Join Date: Dec 2004
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I'll need some help with this - providing the text - but isn't Frodo's lack of sight due to his own fear? Like in the Barrow, when stuck on the cliffside as he and Sam traverse the Emyn Muil, isn't Frodo initially struck blind when he falls and before he gets Galadriel's rope, and then when he calms down some, he regains his sight?
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