Quotes in other languages - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Guinevere · 10-24-2006, 06:19 AM

ok.

avoir besoin de... = to need
trahir = to betray (here in the conditional form)
ne...que = only

It's neither from the LotR nor from the Hobbit

Legate of Amon Lanc · 12-14-2006, 03:59 AM

No one posts at this thread? Obvious! This is Amandil at the Akallabëth:

"If I thought that Manwë needs such messenger " said Amandil, "I would betray the king. For there is only one fidelity from which no man can be released in the heart for any reason. " (hope I translated it back right).

Guinevere · 12-14-2006, 02:02 PM

well, a few words are a bit different in the original:

"If I thought that Manwë needed such a messenger," said Amandil, " I would betray the King. For there is but one loyalty from which no man can be absolved in heart for any cause."

and welcome to the game, Legate of Amon Lanc!

You saved the thread from oblivion!
Now I am curious in what language the next quote will be...

Legate of Amon Lanc · 12-15-2006, 12:19 PM

Thanks... well, since this forum is full of people who were dead and came back to life, I think it is all right to resurrect dead threads

So, if I am to post the next, who wants to try... Ancient Greek...

(since it would have to be in another alphabet, I used transliteration; I am leaving out "H" which is in Ancient Greek written... well... another way and I think does not matter now and certainly does not play role in this quotation)

"De epi tou aionos nyn autos epebouleusen ten fthoran sou, imatismenos to prosopon tes filias, prin autos etoimos echein."

Happy deciphering

(if it would seem too hard to you, I might provide you with some hints, but we'll see if it would be necessary)

Aganzir · 12-17-2007, 01:49 PM

I found a game I definitely want to try... And I guess a hint would be necessary.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 12-17-2007, 02:05 PM

Well I think maybe the quote is not as well known... maybe you could go ahead and post something new yourself... because by the time I posted it it was the only quote I knew 100% sure from the English version (didn't have originals by myself back then), and it is not a familiar quote... I believe, not at all...

So maybe it will be better to drop it and start anew... this game looks too good to be lost.

Guinevere · 12-17-2007, 02:41 PM

Wether the quote is well known or not was not my problem: I am absolutely clueless about Greek, so I gave up and hoped for some of our more learned members to come along.

10-24-2006, 06:19 AM	#1
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	ok. avoir besoin de... = to need trahir = to betray (here in the conditional form) ne...que = only It's neither from the LotR nor from the Hobbit __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

12-14-2006, 03:59 AM	#2
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	No one posts at this thread? Obvious! This is Amandil at the Akallabëth: "If I thought that Manwë needs such messenger " said Amandil, "I would betray the king. For there is only one fidelity from which no man can be released in the heart for any reason. " (hope I translated it back right). __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

12-14-2006, 02:02 PM	#3
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	Correct! well, a few words are a bit different in the original: "If I thought that Manwë needed such a messenger," said Amandil, " I would betray the King. For there is but one loyalty from which no man can be absolved in heart for any cause." and welcome to the game, Legate of Amon Lanc! You saved the thread from oblivion! Now I am curious in what language the next quote will be... __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

12-15-2006, 12:19 PM	#4
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Thanks... well, since this forum is full of people who were dead and came back to life, I think it is all right to resurrect dead threads So, if I am to post the next, who wants to try... Ancient Greek... (since it would have to be in another alphabet, I used transliteration; I am leaving out "H" which is in Ancient Greek written... well... another way and I think does not matter now and certainly does not play role in this quotation) "De epi tou aionos nyn autos epebouleusen ten fthoran sou, imatismenos to prosopon tes filias, prin autos etoimos echein." Happy deciphering (if it would seem too hard to you, I might provide you with some hints, but we'll see if it would be necessary) __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

12-17-2007, 01:49 PM	#5
Aganzir Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells Posts: 4,511	I found a game I definitely want to try... And I guess a hint would be necessary. __________________ He bit me, and I was not gentle.

12-17-2007, 02:05 PM	#6
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Well I think maybe the quote is not as well known... maybe you could go ahead and post something new yourself... because by the time I posted it it was the only quote I knew 100% sure from the English version (didn't have originals by myself back then), and it is not a familiar quote... I believe, not at all... So maybe it will be better to drop it and start anew... this game looks too good to be lost. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

12-17-2007, 02:41 PM	#7
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	Wether the quote is well known or not was not my problem: I am absolutely clueless about Greek, so I gave up and hoped for some of our more learned members to come along. __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!