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Folwren · 10-18-2006, 07:11 PM

Ah. I see. I understand the annoyingness of the Legolas Fan-Girls. What rumors I heard of them amused me to pieces, but I understand how too much of it could be bothersome. Not enough to turn me away from Legolas.

However, his stunts - leaping onto horseback by swinging himself up with his hand on the collar thing of his horse, climbing up the Oliphaunt and the shield thing in Helm's Deep - were a bit much. However, I think that he looked like an elf, and when he wasn't doing anything that an elf couldn't and wouldn't realisticially do, I thought he did alright. His lines in the FotR make me laugh (have you ever quoted them by themslves all the way through? It takes about .... 30 seconds), but from what I remember, his lines in the other movies are alright.

I especially liked the fact that he walked on top of the snow.

That's all I've time for for now. They're calling me in to fold laundry.

*sigh* More opinions would be nice.

-- Folwren

MatthewM · 10-18-2006, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Folwren

I especially liked the fact that he walked on top of the snow.

Me too. I've always defended Legolas, movie and book alike. I think some people (us males especially) tend to be jealous of the guy the girls go crazy over. I'm not jealous over him though, it's not Legolas' fault! But seriously, people who say he is "girly" obviously never read the books, because Elves in general are...well...more...graceful. People just twist things around that they don't understand. I too think Bloom did an amazing job at Legolas.

As for his lines...fine, one or two were a bit corny. But in the books, the characters are ALWAYS stating the obvious. It just doesn't sound bad because it isn't on a huge movie screen in a live version. That's just the way it is.

I agree with the overdone scenes though. The oliphant take over...way too much. I could deal with the slide down Helm's Deep, but the oliphant was ridiculous. Fun to watch though.

Anyway, there's my two cents.

Imladris · 10-18-2006, 09:25 PM

Fordim, I'm glad to say I have outgrown my Leggy bopper days! >.> <.<

As for the so-called "girlyness" of elves, I will be an egoist and point those who are interested in rabbit trails to this: Lament for the Elves

But, also, I think the main hatred of Legolas goes to problem of the compatableness of LotR to film. Let's face it, Legolas is a cardboard character -- it really shouldn't come as a surprise that he's a flimsy film character, slightly crumpled on film.

Macalaure · 10-19-2006, 03:53 AM

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I've always defended Legolas, movie and book alike.

You bring up a good point. What extremely bothers me is that people not only make fun of movie-Legolas, but also of book-Legolas. The two don't really have that much in common - since the writers cut out almost every intelligent sentence Tolkien lets Legolas say in the book. I don't think of book-Legolas as a cardboard character.
If people want to make fun about movie-Legolas, I'm fine. When they make fun of the character in general, I'm a little, well, not upset, but I don't like it - I guess mainly because they do it far too much.

Lhunardawen · 10-19-2006, 04:20 AM

We have to admit that PJ has financial motive - not too ulterior, as a matter of fact. Someone has to rake in all the girls, and ruggedly handsome Aragorn is too noble for the job. Yeah, like morm said. Heartthrob.

He's too perfect. No one in a film can be that perfect.

PJ & Co. has to make modern-day people who would rather sit in the dark watching a film munching popcorn than read a book understand that the book says that an Elf is so-and-so. There can't be a narrator saying "an Elf is so-and-so" verbatim from the book, so PJ & Co. has to translate it to a language that the modern-day people can understand. If the book says that an Elf is tireless and graceful and all that stuff about being a warrior, they have to show it. Turn him into a skaterboi and the stuntman of your dreams.

I wonder how you will react if I tell you that it all boils down to Bloom's fault that I'm even posting this, here, right now.

Lalaith · 10-19-2006, 01:06 PM

Hmmm.....Despite being generally impressed by the films, I got cross about quite a lot of things. Theoden's complete change of character...Eowyn's lack of froideur...Frodo's drippiness...Gimli as the fourth Stooge....all things considered, the fact that Legolas was pretty damn hot was fairly low on the list of annoying things as far as this particular long-time Tolkien fan was concerned.

Alcarin · 10-22-2006, 05:41 AM

I wonder who will play the elves in The Hobbit Movie. I really hope it's not a ''handsome'' actor, because it just brings the spirit of Tolkien down. People will only go to the movie because people will say: '' Have you already seen that Elf in The Hobbit? He is SO hot, you got to watch it!''
Tolkien can't be forgotten...

10-18-2006, 07:11 PM	#1
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	Ah. I see. I understand the annoyingness of the Legolas Fan-Girls. What rumors I heard of them amused me to pieces, but I understand how too much of it could be bothersome. Not enough to turn me away from Legolas. However, his stunts - leaping onto horseback by swinging himself up with his hand on the collar thing of his horse, climbing up the Oliphaunt and the shield thing in Helm's Deep - were a bit much. However, I think that he looked like an elf, and when he wasn't doing anything that an elf couldn't and wouldn't realisticially do, I thought he did alright. His lines in the FotR make me laugh (have you ever quoted them by themslves all the way through? It takes about .... 30 seconds), but from what I remember, his lines in the other movies are alright. I especially liked the fact that he walked on top of the snow. That's all I've time for for now. They're calling me in to fold laundry. sigh More opinions would be nice. -- Folwren __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

10-18-2006, 09:25 PM	#3
Imladris Tears of the Phoenix Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Putting dimes in the jukebox baby. Posts: 1,453	Fordim, I'm glad to say I have outgrown my Leggy bopper days! >.> <.< As for the so-called "girlyness" of elves, I will be an egoist and point those who are interested in rabbit trails to this: Lament for the Elves But, also, I think the main hatred of Legolas goes to problem of the compatableness of LotR to film. Let's face it, Legolas is a cardboard character -- it really shouldn't come as a surprise that he's a flimsy film character, slightly crumpled on film. __________________ I'm sorry it wasn't a unicorn. It would have been nice to have unicorns. I'm your huckleberry.

10-19-2006, 01:06 PM	#6
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	Hmmm.....Despite being generally impressed by the films, I got cross about quite a lot of things. Theoden's complete change of character...Eowyn's lack of froideur...Frodo's drippiness...Gimli as the fourth Stooge....all things considered, the fact that Legolas was pretty damn hot was fairly low on the list of annoying things as far as this particular long-time Tolkien fan was concerned. __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

10-22-2006, 05:41 AM	#7
Alcarin Pile O'Bones Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: In your House Posts: 18	I wonder who will play the elves in The Hobbit Movie. I really hope it's not a ''handsome'' actor, because it just brings the spirit of Tolkien down. People will only go to the movie because people will say: '' Have you already seen that Elf in The Hobbit? He is SO hot, you got to watch it!'' Tolkien can't be forgotten... __________________ “By the Way of the warrior is meant death. The Way of the warrior is death. This means choosing death whenever there is a choice between life and death. It means nothing more than this. It means to see things through, being resolved.”

10-19-2006, 04:20 AM	#5
Lhunardawen Hauntress of the Havens Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IN it, but not OF it Posts: 2,538	We have to admit that PJ has financial motive - not too ulterior, as a matter of fact. Someone has to rake in all the girls, and ruggedly handsome Aragorn is too noble for the job. Yeah, like morm said. Heartthrob. He's too perfect. No one in a film can be that perfect. PJ & Co. has to make modern-day people who would rather sit in the dark watching a film munching popcorn than read a book understand that the book says that an Elf is so-and-so. There can't be a narrator saying "an Elf is so-and-so" verbatim from the book, so PJ & Co. has to translate it to a language that the modern-day people can understand. If the book says that an Elf is tireless and graceful and all that stuff about being a warrior, they have to show it. Turn him into a skaterboi and the stuntman of your dreams. I wonder how you will react if I tell you that it all boils down to Bloom's fault that I'm even posting this, here, right now.